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basar13 12-25-2011 10:30 AM

Horsepowerfreaks Ethanol Z4M build
 
There it is, the build has started... :evil:

I will use ethanol instead of racefuel.

I have received these today ....

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Dirty Mike 12-25-2011 10:40 AM

Awww yeah. Happy holidays to whoever gets to drive that!

SweTurbo 12-25-2011 10:57 AM

Looks great , horsepower figures on the injectors are off though , BSFC is for gas and sheet is for a 4-can setup, id say those injectors are capable of around 600bhp :)

BDUB328I 12-25-2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pir4t (Post 13920973)
Looks great , horsepower figures on the injectors are off though , BSFC is for gas and sheet is for a 4-can setup, id say those injectors are capable of around 600bhp :)

i thought thoes numbers looked a bit omptimistic also but i wasnt going to mention it as im no expert

Hobbit382 12-25-2011 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pir4t (Post 13920973)
Looks great , horsepower figures on the injectors are off though , BSFC is for gas and sheet is for a 4-can setup, id say those injectors are capable of around 600bhp :)

Actually at 5 bar rail pressure those should be 1440cc injectors. And on e85 should be good for about 1000-1100 flywheel hp or about 900-950 whp. (max duty cycle) remember e85 makes about 11% more power with no added timing or boost.

MarcusLSB 12-25-2011 06:45 PM

I'm running those very same injectors and have made 850rwhp with them.

basar13 12-26-2011 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MarcusLSB (Post 13921647)
I'm running those very same injectors and have made 850rwhp with them.

Thanks for the info, Jason personally recommended these injectors so i have no questions about them.:4ngie:

SweTurbo 12-26-2011 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hobbit382 (Post 13921433)
Actually at 5 bar rail pressure those should be 1440cc injectors. And on e85 should be good for about 1000-1100 flywheel hp or about 900-950 whp. (max duty cycle) remember e85 makes about 11% more power with no added timing or boost.

Oh yeah i was thinking static 3bar pressure, dont forget e85 needs 30% more fuel , so an injector that flows 200hp on gas only flows 160hp on E85 :)
(note i said a 4can setup as that what the sheet specified)
Also running them at 100% DC isnt recommended , i try to never get above 80%
Even though newer injectors are less prone to failing i've had bad experiences in the past cap'ing the injectors :(

Hobbit382 12-26-2011 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pir4t (Post 13922441)
Oh yeah i was thinking static 3bar pressure, dont forget e85 needs 30% more fuel , so an injector that flows 200hp on gas only flows 160hp on E85 :)
(note i said a 4can setup as that what the sheet specified)
Also running them at 100% DC isnt recommended , i try to never get above 80%
Even though newer injectors are less prone to failing i've had bad experiences in the past cap'ing the injectors :(

yeah but e85 makes more power so its not exactly counting apples to apples as far as fuel volume and power. Id say using your example if gas flowed 200hp then e85 would be closer to 175hp but thats just me bench racing.

SweTurbo 12-26-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hobbit382 (Post 13922491)
yeah but e85 makes more power so its not exactly counting apples to apples as far as fuel volume and power. Id say using your example if gas flowed 200hp then e85 would be closer to 175hp but thats just me bench racing.

What i mean is at the same power level E85 will need to flow 20-30% more fuel to run at lambda 1 :)

I think we're arguing ove the same point , just my translation capabilities are messing it up :)

yellowssm 12-26-2011 10:22 AM

I have those injectors also. How many cc are they?

basar13 12-26-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowssm (Post 13922567)
I have those injectors also. How many cc are they?


Great, they are 1100cc. :thumbup:

basar13 12-27-2011 09:02 AM

Final pics with iphone i will use my nikon from now on :):):)

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lutzperformance 12-27-2011 09:32 AM

Looking good! :thumbsup:

MarcusLSB 12-27-2011 12:42 PM

I'm excited to see this come together!

gotti~cgs~ 12-27-2011 01:52 PM

I want to have sex with your sterring wheel :eeps:

basar13 12-29-2011 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcusLSB (Post 13925279)
I'm excited to see this come together!

Thanks, i wont let you guys down :excited::excited:

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutzperformance (Post 13924795)
Looking good! :thumbsup:

Thanks, i hope one day you will make a equal length tubular exhaust manifold kit for s54. :hmm::hmm::4ngie:



Quote:

Originally Posted by gotti~cgs~ (Post 13925505)
I want to have sex with your sterring wheel :eeps:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::jack:

mvrk10256 12-29-2011 09:25 AM

This is pretty nuts. Lots of money, but this is going to be sick.. Looking forward to it.

lutzperformance 12-29-2011 11:42 AM

Thanks, i hope one day you will make a equal length tubular exhaust manifold kit for s54. :hmm::hmm::4ngie:




Shoot me an email, Andrew@lutzperfauto.net and I'll forward you to Shawn our Fabricator and see what we can come up with ;)

Thanks!

Beedub 12-29-2011 04:39 PM

Basar.... Completly unrelated but i love the black hardtop on you grey roadster.... Id like to do something similar......,, any more daylight pics of the exterior of your car???

Im guessing it looks even better in person.... Its really unique.... I will be doing thr same with my ti z4m r


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