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jeffb325@NavigationSolutions 01-03-2012 03:42 PM

Dynavin info......D99 (new for 2012)
 
Dynavin D99

Here we go.... Just like the threads I started in the past, Im starting an official Dynavin D99 thread since these new units are now out and shipping. Ill be adding to and filling out this post over the next few days and weeks.

This thread is for D99 questions and info only. In order to keep info clear and accessible for future readers PLEASE try to keep opinions, speculations, and other unrelated discussion out of this thread.

If you have a question or concern that does not relate to the new D99 units please search or post in one of the existing Dynavin threads.

Dynavin D95 (V6) thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...hlight=dynavin
Dynavin D90 (V5) thread: (The Big One!) http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...hlight=dynavin
Dynavin Android Thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=839753
Android Development thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=892583
D99 Pre-release speculation thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=886222



New for 2012 Dynavin has released the D99 Navigation system for selected BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and VW cars. This unit will compliment their existing D95 units as a higher end model. While some things are carry over from the the D95 units, the new D99 will offer some features that have not previously been available from Dynavin. They have teamed with Parrot for the bluetooth system, have added an interface with the cars OBC, and have added Park Distance sensor support for cars so equipped.

The Android/WinCE "navigation side" of the units is unchanged.

Now for the good stuff....(will be adding content, for now here is a video of a D99 WinCE unit in action)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2S2i...1&feature=plcp



Whats in the Box

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/af5a7d28.jpg

USB Extension
ipod cable
bluetooth mic
wire harness
RCA input harness
RCA output harness
Remote
Antenna adapters
ibus interface box
gps antenna

Pretty much the same as the D95s, everything you need for a basic install. As before, cars with oem Nav require the "fakra cable kit" to extend all of the connections to the trunk as nav cars radios are actually in the trunk.



Source Selection Home Screen

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/3f753d98.jpg

There are two screens here, you can "swipe" the screen back and forth, the (probably) most common sources (radio, ipod, phone, etc) are on page one with the less common sources (USB, TV, etc) on page 2. You can also access the settings from here. I like the large clear buttons, it makes finding a source while driving quite a bit easier.




Settings Screen

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/19f12b0b.jpg

As in the past the Dynavin has a fairly simple audio feature set, no fancy 32 band EQs or time alignment here....similar to stock, bass, treble, fader, balance. It does have a separate sub level control for the subwoofer RCA outputs for those running aftermarket subs.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/c538ca4e.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/cfb7e55d.jpg

One thing to point out in these menus as it is often missed.... the "DIM" function affects how the screen dims for night driving, you active this by HOLDING down the MUTE button, changing the DIM setting makes the screen dim or shut off completely depending on your preference.



Radio

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/69d021c4.jpg

The new radio interface is all big, clear, easy to press, touch screen buttons. The white text on a black background is also good for visibility. The radio can be configured to tune in US, Euro, or Asian frequencies. Pretty much works as expected.




Bluetooth

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/5d35aac4.jpg

Dynavin has teamed with Parrot on the bluetooth. This adds phonebook functionality to the unit. It paired with my iphone within seconds and my phonbook was there and ready to use a few seconds after that, no need to do anything extra, it was just there. There is a keyboard for alphabetical search, you just start to type and once you are a few letters in you should see the contact that you are looking for. As far as quality goes, that is up to your mic location, your phone, your voice, how loud your car is, and a bunch of other variables. I personally had pretty good results putting the mic in the factory location but your results may vary.

Bluetooth streaming works as it has on previous dynavin units, although now with a slightly better layout of play/stop/track controls.

Hint: If there are multiple numbers for a contact you can press the number and it will cycle through the other numbers.

Hint: if you find it hard to select the contact at the very top edge of the screen you can do a screen calibration by selecting AUX as the source, and holding down the 8 button on the remote.



iPod

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/a643957d.jpg

The ipod interface is an improvement over past dynavin versions but isnt perfect. It DOES have the ipod resume feature missing in the older units. So when you start your car, the ipod will start where you left off. As you can see in the video and pic above there are page forward and back buttons, and the menu button goes back a level. Holding down the menu button jumps back to the playlist/artist/album/etc... screen. While you can page forward and back there is no "alphabetical" search so if you have A LOT of artists it could be problematic, I have a couple hundred on my ipod and it isnt a problem but I can imagine it would get tedious if you had a thousand... If this is a problem for you consider getting an android unit and use the android media player and a SD card for you music instead as it DOES allow for more rapid scrolling.....

CD/DVD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/024e155c.jpg

SD/USB

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/5b916b5b.jpg

The CD player and SD/USB digital interface are carry over from the D95 units and just like in the D95 they are cosmetically different than the other sources. That said, the SD/USB does require a different type of interface as it is folder dependent. I havent tested it yet to see if it has any limitations in levels of folder navigation, number of files etc...


Navigation WinCE

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/27d78eb8.jpg

This is a screen shot of a WinCE unit running the Sygic Drive navigation program (a licensed copy comes with the units we sell but this may vary by dealer). The WinCE units will run any number of WinCE compatible nav programs, iGo Primo is a popular one here among the forum members, there are other threads dedicated to those other programs.



Navigation Android

The Nav setup on an android unit is totally different......read the original android thread for details, http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=839753 and if you dont you do so at your own risk!


to be continued.....


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MaximumWalrus 01-03-2012 03:58 PM

Excellent video, very useful, thanks. Really does show the functionality of the new unit off quite nicely. Real shame they've wasted all that precious space in the iPod interface though, just imagine if there was more space for track info. Still, can't have everything!

Is that a Windows unit?

What are your honest thoughts on it then?

jeffb325@NavigationSolutions 01-03-2012 04:16 PM

how did I know you would be first to comment! :D

Yes that is a winCE unit running "Sygic Drive" Nav program.

Ill be filling out the original post with pics and my review of the functions, both good and bad, as I have time over the next few days. I can say that they are a nice improvement over previous years units although very similar to the current D95s in most ways. Mostly its the general refinement that has improved (you can see that in the video), some parts are still a little rough like the digital music browser, but the radio, bluetooth, settings menus, DVD player, and ipod interface all work pretty smooth.

It sounds dumb but I think the biggest improvement is the larger touch screen buttons....its a small change but makes a world of difference in a moving car.

MaximumWalrus 01-03-2012 04:49 PM

Looking forward to seeing the first customer install - be good to see how the OBC and PDC implementation works.

I'll be sure to get pics etc up if I'm the first to get one, they are 2 weeks away in the UK apparently.

elfer 01-03-2012 04:51 PM

Looks like they have indeed made some very worthwhile improvements. If they keep going like this I could end up buying a new one every six months!

Question: How do the Dynavin's OBC and Parking sensor inputs connect to the car?

jeffb325@NavigationSolutions 01-03-2012 05:01 PM

The OBC and PDC connections are through the ibus interface, previously known as the steering wheel control box interface......the connections to the car are not any different although there are now a few more wires in the harness between the interface box and the dynavin.

elfer 01-03-2012 05:09 PM

That's too easy! So anyone upgrading from an earlier version (d90 in my case) wouldn't have anything extra to do :)

Presumably the rest of the connectors/harness are pretty much the same as before too?

jeffb325@NavigationSolutions 01-03-2012 05:16 PM

The harnesses are new so you would just need to swap the unit and the wire harness, the rest of the parts are the same. The only place where this is a problem is if a person had a previous dynavin and was using a Fakra cable (because they had oem nav), since the Fakra IS the wire harness its a problem because swapping it wouldnt be easy. For those people I suggest just cutting the plug off the Fakra and splicing on a new plug, its all color coded so its not rocket science.

For all future readers of this thread who dont understand the previous paragraph.....it doesnt apply to you!

elfer 01-03-2012 05:32 PM

That's great, thanks Jeff

Presumably, for PDC equipped cars, the D99 automatically displays the PDC screen when you shift into reverse? (With the reverse signal wire tapped if need be)

jeffb325@NavigationSolutions 01-03-2012 05:44 PM

presumably.....but until we see some actually get installed in a PDC car your guess is as good as mine.

BigDRick323 01-03-2012 06:33 PM

Just missed the first DHL delivery attempt today, signed it and should get mine on the doorstop tomorrow! YAY, if someone in the dallas area wants to watch and or assist in installing, I will be doing install soon!

By the way Jeff, Robin Hood animated, way under rated!

reigate 01-03-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb325@DynavinSolutions (Post 13944384)
presumably.....but until we see some actually get installed in a PDC car your guess is as good as mine.

I have a D99 (Android) on the way (thanks Jeff) and do have PDC so it hopefully, will automatically default to the appropriate display when reverse is engaged but only time will tell.

I have an RHD e46 with OEM nav and am trying to get my head around the install before everything arrives but want to run a concept past those who are experienced with the Dynavin. My plan is to run two USB extensions into the area below the center arm wrest for each side of the unit. As I will only be using WiFi to connect while at home, my intention is to swap the dongle out when not required and replace it with a Bluetooth one to enable use on the Android side. The other will be used for a USB memory stick which I believe should minimize the use of the front Micro SD slots which from reading some posts, can be mechanically problematic.

Just a few questions:
1. Any perceived problems with the above or a better alternative?
2. What is the difference between the two Micro SD card slots on the front of the unit?
3. Does anyone know of a Bluetooth radar detector?
4. Appreciate any guidance also on an OEM nav install as I can only find one reference and while it is great, my RHD European/Australian configuration in the rear is significantly different.

I would also like to thank all those who have posted information on the Dynavin and while it has taken me a number of days to read the hundreds of related posts, it certainly make me more comfortable purchasing a unit and attempting an install myself.

Tho///a5 01-03-2012 09:23 PM

In regards to the new wires for the pdc obc etc... Where would someone tap that from that has a full aftermarket system like myself?

Commanderwiggin 01-03-2012 09:55 PM

In comparison to the D95 is it considerably faster? Different processor? Sound Quality better/same?

Thanks!

jeffb325@NavigationSolutions 01-03-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reigate (Post 13945040)
What is the difference between the two Micro SD card slots on the front of the unit?

My plan is to run two USB extensions into the area below the center arm wrest for each side of the unit.

One SD card is for nav side of the unit (android or WinCE), one is for the radio side (media), same arrangement as the USBs.

The USB setup you propose would work ok....but you will want to make sure you have sufficient clearance under the armrest, a lot of USB devices might be too long and will hit the armrest when its down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tho///a5 (Post 13945097)
In regards to the new wires for the pdc obc etc... Where would someone tap that from that has a full aftermarket system like myself?

From what I have seen it is just the ibus wire, same wire as the steering wheel controls use. So nothing extra required.....I think...:hmm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin (Post 13945194)
In comparison to the D95 is it considerably faster? Different processor? Sound Quality better/same?

From what I have seen it is the same basic hardware, just with the new parrot bluetooth module, different radio module, and the extra wiring etc for the OBC and PDC features. So the performance should be similar to the D95, just with the added features and some different cosmetics,

vids_blk323Ci 01-03-2012 10:44 PM

subscribed!

Rick323, im interested in watching/helping out. ive been watching the dynavin threads for a while. Let me know if you have a need for some tools. Or supplies (i have bunch of cable, splice connectors, etc...)

btw, when r u doing the install and do you think you will have it done by the next meetup here in DFW?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDRick323 (Post 13944528)
Just missed the first DHL delivery attempt today, signed it and should get mine on the doorstop tomorrow! YAY, if someone in the dallas area wants to watch and or assist in installing, I will be doing install soon!

By the way Jeff, Robin Hood animated, way under rated!


savvas86 01-03-2012 11:44 PM

Quick question for you Jeff. Looking to buy the new D99, was wondering if the built in ipod cord supports video on this model, I am aware that does not support video in the older models.

jeffb325@NavigationSolutions 01-03-2012 11:58 PM

No, no change there.

elfer 01-04-2012 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reigate (Post 13945040)
...my intention is to swap the dongle out when not required and replace it with a Bluetooth one to enable use on the Android side. The other will be used for a USB memory stick which I believe should minimize the use of the front Micro SD slots which from reading some posts, can be mechanically problematic.

Just a few questions:
1. Any perceived problems with the above or a better alternative?...

I believe some use have connected a USB hub to the Android side's USB, allowing simultaneous connection of WiFi/BT dongles and flash memory sticks. Haven't tried it myself but I'm sure I read of it over on the Android thread.

I have my Radio and GPS female USB extension leads exiting into the front ashtray. It doesn't look 'factory' but you can only see them when the tray is open and I find it very practical, allowing quick and easy access. I quite like your armrest idea though too. I might look at mine and see if it looks possible...

ZZen330 01-04-2012 03:04 AM

Scrolling through ipod artists looks to be a serious chore if you have a decent library. Should at least be an A-Z selector (scroll using dial) to first get you to the right letter.


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