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Vti 06-08-2003 07:20 PM

IDMAX or 12W7?
I'm looking into getting a pair of 12" subs but I'm still debating over the IDMax or the JL 12W7......

Any experience, opinions or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


smoke 06-08-2003 07:37 PM

no more questions asked, the jl audio 12/w7 subwoofer is the one to get.

CrazyBimmer 06-08-2003 07:58 PM

i have the idmax... its great for the price.

But the jl w7 is better... but the price shows it. ;)

Vti 06-08-2003 08:01 PM

Wow....I honestly didn't know W7's were better.....

thanks guys for the input

need to do some research on the W7's now

I'm thinking of getting two PG Ti500.4's, one to power the subs and one for the front stage. Front stage will prolly be Focal 165W's.

You guys think the 500.4 will have enough power to power 2 12W7's?

Thanks again

trickedturbo 06-08-2003 08:18 PM

The 500.4 is not nearly enough to power 1 w7. They are power hungry subs that need AT LEAST 750 watts a piece to get them to their potential. Id put around 8-900 if i were u into each sub because if you pay so much for those subs you want to enjoy them at their full potential. Good luck:thumbup:

Vti 06-08-2003 08:27 PM

Whoa....that's a lot of power and prolly out of my budget

I might have to just stick with the IDMax then.

You think a 500.4 could power 2 12" IDMAX's? If not, what amps would be recommended if the intent is 2 12's. My preference is PG amps....but it seems that a lot people here praise the JL amps.

OR should I consider one 13W7 and get a PG Ti800.1?

Help is appreciated.


trickedturbo 06-08-2003 09:06 PM

If you are gonna go with idmaxes, you will need to give each sub 1000 watts. If you go with jl w7 12, each should get 800-900 watts, and if you go with one 13 w7, you will need to give about 1000 but i would give about 1200 watts or somthing in that range. I cant think of amps of the top of my head but you will need amps that produce 1000+ because you are talking about serious subs here.

Vti 06-08-2003 09:15 PM


Very good info here. So my best bet might be a single 13W7 with a PG Ti800.1 (1000W). Is the Ti500.4 good enough for the FOcal 165W's?

Thanks again

trickedturbo 06-08-2003 11:05 PM

I can recommend you a great sub setup if you give me a price range...

CrazyBimmer 06-09-2003 07:43 AM

good luck trying to fit eh 165w into the doors :banghead: :banghead:

Fobunited 06-09-2003 11:17 PM

On top of not putting out enough power, the Phoenix Gold amp you're talking about is a 4 channel amp and isn't made for subwoofers. For 12" W7s, I normall recommend the 1001BD from Rockford Fosgate or the 1000/1 from JL. Phoenix Gold amps are super duper clean, but they don't put out alot of power. If you want to go with Phoenix Gold, you would want the Ti800.1 or the Ti1000.2.

berman66 06-10-2003 02:30 AM

don't do a rockford fosgate amp. I'd go phoenix gold i have a phoenix gold ti 500.2 powering my idq v2 10" subs go with 1000.2 and you will be veyr happy.

Vti 06-11-2003 07:19 AM

Thx for the input guys. I think I'm narrowing it down now. The plan is one 13W7 or 12W7 (depending on how much diff. there is) powered by a Ti800.1

As for the front, 165W's powered by 500.4 (bridged). Any comments on the front setup? Is a bridged setup not as good? Is there enough power from the 500.4 (rated at 250x2).

Again thanks for any input.

playinJ30 06-11-2003 11:08 AM

Adire Brahma


TX330ci 06-12-2003 12:56 PM

i have a 13w7 with 1000w going into one sub alone, debating selling the jl audio 1000.1 and getting a PPI 2400 however for more power

CrazyBimmer 06-12-2003 03:01 PM


Originally posted by playinJ30
Adire Brahma


thats a great sub as well

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