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gymkhana 02-16-2012 08:09 PM

2003 330i zhp for sale, silver w/ black leather, engine needs replacement, m3 swap?
 
hello everyone!

I have a silver 2003 bmw 330i with 90,000 miles on the odometer that I am considering selling because the valves are "burned" and the cylinders are scratched, meaning the engine needs to be rebuilt or replaced. my mechanic said that it would be most efficient to just do a motor swap which is about 4500 and I only have about 3k right now. =(

i would prefer to fix it and keep it but i may or may not be able to, because of many factors including the joy of owning a bmw but i figured i should see what kind of interest there is towards this car right now. people always say nice things about the car everywhere i go. i know in some communites the zhp is highly coveted not only because its a great car, but also because its hard to find . this car has been great to me until this recent and random catastrophe (which was strange because this car has been well maintained). right now i am taking offers for the car as-is (engine is not running, everything else is in good-great condition) this car would be great for a m3 s54 swap which would be a similar cost to a regular motor swap.

KBB private party value for this car is $13,000 and i even tryed typing in 900,000 miles and it was only $10,000, so it appears that these cars hold value very well, though i think 10k for a car with almost a million miles is just silly. im not expecting to get $13,000 out of this car although i aim to find a mutually agreeable and beneficial price.

feel free to email me or call 208-664-0984 and leave a msg if i dont answer.

please no low ballers, thank you.

ps, im in washington :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

mcfly1204 02-17-2012 01:55 PM

I am interested to hear someone's suggestion on how he might set a price for his car as is. With a value around $14,000, and an estimated repair cost of $5,000-$6,000, the logical answer would be $8,000-$9,000, but is that accurate?

sunnyjay 02-17-2012 02:27 PM

Most of the use none zhp m54b30 engines in my area are about 2,000 dollars. If you were able to swap the engine yourself or know someone who has mechanical skills, its not that hard. I have done it once. Thats an option for you to take.

The other day I saw a rolled 2002 M3 for 5k, that would be ideal for everything you need to swap into your car. Then you can part the rest of the car and make money from it. Thats another option to consider.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/01-06-BMW-e4...item231909bc89

mcfly1204 02-18-2012 08:24 AM

If you knew what you were doing, is there any significant difference between install an M3 engine vs. a ZHP engine?

Grande D 02-18-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mcfly1204 (Post 14095618)
If you knew what you were doing, is there any significant difference between install an M3 engine vs. a ZHP engine?

Huge difference. harness swap, ECU problems, etc. It is not P&P.

sea6speed 02-18-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mcfly1204 (Post 14093653)
I am interested to hear someone's suggestion on how he might set a price for his car as is. With a value around $14,000, and an estimated repair cost of $5,000-$6,000, the logical answer would be $8,000-$9,000, but is that accurate?

If the car is in immaculate condition and he manages to find a low mileage engine form another ZHP, $14k is realistic. That said, it seems unlikely that someone that can't scrape together enough to replace an engine is driving an otherwise immaculate ZHP.

After engine replacement, a better estimate is probably $10-$11k. It's highly unusual for a well maintained m54b30 to die at 90k miles.

JohnBlaze 02-18-2012 11:08 AM

I bought a 2005 ZHP with 31k miles on the ticker for 3,200 last year. The car did have a blown motor, but was pretty clean besides that.

MJLavelle 02-18-2012 11:58 AM

@ OP - What exactly led to the engine failure, just out of curiosity. Especially since it was "well maintained". You could probably swap out a non-ZHP engine from a 330 in there without much trouble. I can see it now - 2 years from now, someone in WA buys a nice used silver ZHP, and is wondering why it seems a little underpowered. :) If you think about it, since there is no insurance claim, the engine swap could easily slip under the radar, and the buyer may never know what he actually has.

MJLavelle 02-18-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sea6speed (Post 14095818)
If the car is in immaculate condition and he manages to find a low mileage engine form another ZHP, $14k is realistic. That said, it seems unlikely that someone that can't scrape together enough to replace an engine is driving an otherwise immaculate ZHP.

It's known as credit. Just because you can borrow enough to buy the car, it does not mean you have the income necessary to pay for a new engine. I see people all the time driving cars that are obviously above their income level. They are usually young, and living with their parents, and the car is their only
expense. That actually describes 90% of the heavily modified Subie drivers out there. That is also why you see cars with $3000 wheels, and the cheapest Chinese crap tires on them. They can't afford to buy the good 19in tires, after the first set of quality tires are wasted in parking lot burnouts. Whenever I see a young guy with a set of very expensive wheels on a car, I always look to see what tires it has. More often than not, it is a bald set of cheap, crappy tires. I saw a set of wheels in the classified section of this site a few weeks ago, on sale for $2000 or so, with a worn out set of Nanking tires on them. And yes, I know that I strayed way off topic here.
BTW - "Imaculate", and "Well Maintained" can mean a lot of things. I have looked at tons of used cars that are described that way. "Imaculate" means that they kept it really clean and polished. "Well Maintained" means they changed the oil, and kept a set of matching tires on it. Which, for aging BMW's, does not mean a damn thing. *****But just to be clear, I AM NOT saying that is the case with the OP's car. He can explain what service was done to any potential buyers, and they can decide for themselves. I have no idea what he has done to care for his car.****

sea6speed 02-18-2012 11:40 PM

Credit can also be used to purchase a new engine.

sunnyjay 02-19-2012 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJLavelle (Post 14095925)
@ OP - What exactly led to the engine failure, just out of curiosity. Especially since it was "well maintained". You could probably swap out a non-ZHP engine from a 330 in there without much trouble. I can see it now - 2 years from now, someone in WA buys a nice used silver ZHP, and is wondering why it seems a little underpowered. :) If you think about it, since there is no insurance claim, the engine swap could easily slip under the radar, and the buyer may never know what he actually has.

Im curious myself too. My 330ci is approaching 160k miles and it just burns a bit of oil. Other then burning a bit of oil, its still running perfect.

MJLavelle 02-19-2012 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sea6speed (Post 14097244)
Credit can also be used to purchase a new engine.

If that was an option, I would guess we would not be seeing this post. I am not judging the OP on this, because I was in the same position when I was quite young. Hopefully, he can work something out, something that does not involve borrowing more money.

sea6speed 02-19-2012 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJLavelle (Post 14097386)
If that was an option, I would guess we would not be seeing this post. I am not judging the OP on this, because I was in the same position when I was quite young. Hopefully, he can work something out, something that does not involve borrowing more money.

Yes, that is my assessment as well. I'm not judging the OP, just trying to determine what the car is worth, as asked, based on provided information.

I believe his best option is to buy a new engine on credit to maximize value. Assuming the car is in otherwise good condition. If, on the other hand, the car was neglected during his ownership I'd rather he just get rid of it.

gymkhana 03-13-2012 05:13 AM

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Update-
To feed your curiosity, i bought the car outright the old fashioned way, straight cash. I was raised to not be a credit whore.
Anyway ill include a pic of the valves and block.
I ultimately ended up selling the car which was painful but neccesary but atleast i got 5500 for it within a couple days of posting an ad and i plan on buying a bimmer in the future.
RIP ZHP
Now id like you to feed my curiosity, what would casu an engine to die in this manner?

sea6speed 03-13-2012 06:29 AM

Odd, you usually see that kind of damage on FI motors that run too lean. Any clue about the previous owner?

Edit: I looked back at your post history to see if there was any clue to what happened. Nope. However, with the title issues, past history and based on what you paid for the car, you did really, really well getting what you did for it.

car2dan 05-29-2012 10:47 PM

Money Shifted? ... IDK just a wild guess lol


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