how do you tell the difference between hpf turbo's
i would like to know im judging a show at the end of the month. any help and i would be grateful...
You don't need to...... You give them all first place.....lol
Seriously though look thru the bumper at the drivers fog and you can it has methanol or not, that will let you know it's at least a stage 2.......if it has the oem fuel rail it's a stage 2.75 or under.....other than that you would have to climb under the car and what size snail it has . There are other differences between the kits but those can be an upgrade on stages lower.
i think a stage 3 or 4 hpf is coming to eurofest
but thanks alot now i won't look to stupid to the owners i will at lease know what im looking for and where to look....
There are certain instances where you will not be able to tell the difference other than to ask the owner..... For example the only difference between a stage 2 and 2.5 is internals
If they both have HPF Turbo kits on their cars depending on your point structure most would just judge it as having an aftermarket turbo. In shows I think fit and finish would mean more than Stage x vs Stage y. Is the intake manifold color matched? What about other engine bay modifications that complement the motor? Is the engine bay factory floor clean like it should be at a car show? etc..
I dont know if it matters for s show what stage HPF the car is. Like has been said, there are so many other markers to do like aftermaket strut bar, all AN fitting fuel system, color matching under hood compasnents, or polished ones at least.
You can have a little stage one that went to town that will visually blow away a plain Jane Stage 4. ...unless you are awarding points on power made. You need a dyno for that.
Car shows are pretty superficial....goes back to the Koni/dirty Motons thing.
Often a top winning car is never driven, its trailered to every event. Whats the point?
wait my car is my very day car and in the north east
engine bay..... ect.
but im one of a kind lollll
and to answer you my other judges told me that the perf. is going by h/p thats why i wanted to know about your turbo's.. i think we are going to have a dyno at the show but don't hold me to it.... im in the area of the show thats my job...i am just trying to bone up on the turbo's.. so i can be fair...
i hear their are going to be a few 997 their also.... but we are expecting around 1,000 cars.. we are going to try to run in like bimmerfest for this year.. the one on the east coast...
i hear their is a guy in the new york area that is geting a stage 4 hpf turbo
with 900+ h/p..... he should be wright up their with h/p i would think...
but thank you all (the hpf cars for giving me your comments)
here is what i have for perf.
AA W/A Injection Kit For AA S/C
AA Super Charger With a C 81 Trim Blower
E46 M-ScinTake-Intake Manifold
Intake Manifold Is Custumed Painted Carbon Black
HKS96 96MM HKS Intake Housing Modified For Rotrex
ATEW-Air Temp Extension Wire
RamAir RamAIR Pipe Upper +Lower
13621725323-Air Temp Sensor Intake Manifold Includes With Wire
AA BOV BOV Valve
11531417215 Thermostat 55 Deg
11521719269S Sport Fan Clutch (3 holes)
Custom Alfa SoftWear UpGrade To Gen 3 Level 2 S/C Kit
L2P- AA S/C 8 Rib Pulley Kit
# 39 Blue Fuel Injectors
AA Oil Cooler
AA Inter Cooler Custum Painted Red
AA ExHaust Header Set
AA Performance Clutch
AA Light Weight Flywheel (10 lbs)
6 Iridium Spark Plugs
6 Plasma Coils
GruppeM Titanium Race Exhaust Muffler
Direct Port NSX Nox Kit 30 SHOT
3 Piece Forged Kinesis K19r That Are All Fully Polished Finish 19x8.5F & 19x10R
Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position Tires 245x35x19f and
Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position Tires 275x30x19r
Axxis Brake Pads
STOP-TECK 14 Big Brake Kit Custom
Red Painted Calipers & Cross Drilled Rotors
UUC Barbarian Sway Bars
UUC Rear Urethane Bushing
Sub-Frame Reinforcement Kit
C.A.Auto AC Schnitzer Black Carbon Fiber Style Front Race Cross Brace.
Auto Meter Sport Competition Gauges ( Boost, EGT, Oil Press ),
AEM Uego Air To Fuel,, Volt, Water Temp On Mickey Mouse Ears
Voodoo Boost Gauge In Engine Bay For Dyno Tuning
i think i know what you are talking about as you can see.
no problem hope it was somewhat helpful. i never was a carshow guy, the one show i did my car lost to a bonestock M3 because you could whiteglove his car without seeing one spec of dirt.
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