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E46 No Fap To End All No Fap Threads : Join Or Fap
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Welcome to Version 2 of **NO FAP Thread to end ALL No Fap threads**. Thread one which was created by Preparation changed a lot of lives, got featured on Psychology Today (http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...orn-experiment), and through 8000+ posts allowed us to gain tons of new knowledge and spread it to others. Hopefully this thread builds upon the foundation laid by the first thread and continuous to inspire people to become the person they have always wanted to be.
For those completely new to this, PLEASE read everything in here first before asking questions. I compiled a plethora of information on No Fap, from both the previous threads, peoples personal accounts, books and other websites.
NO PORN, NO EDGING (stroking it without cumming), **** BISHES, and the obvious, NO FAP!
JOIN the Misc No Fap Crew on Chains.cc to keep track of progress
Get in on the chat at 8 PM PST on Sundays (or any day, always peeps in there). We'll attempt to motivate each other for the next week, and also just have some lulz.
*Click "Join Chat" not "Write Message".*
PLEASE USE YOUR BB.COM NAME!!!
Also, no spamming please.
We are currently working on our own site/forum check it out and join the foroum http://gjdm.co*****
Link to first thread http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=138995133
Quick summary of the most frequently addressed points in the last thread
- No fap has more to do with the dopamine rather than "test boosting". There is no strong evidence of long term no fap having a effect on testosterone. Rather the main benefit of no fap is you preventing our brain from getting a dose of dopamine everytime you fap. This increases the levels of another hormone that motivates you to actually do stuff, while fapping makes you want to do less after the dopamine spike. In general many no fappers generally feel more euphoric and happy since the dopamine receptors are not dulled out, and more motivated since their bodies crave the dopamine more, and seek it out through other means (real girls, friends, working out, accomplishing things) in short NO FAP = MOTIVATION TO IMPROVE LIFE
- DO NOT EDGE OR WATCH ****** Not only will you fail but you are still stimulating your brain
- Sex is fine
- It is not a linear process, you will not be 5 times hornier on day 15 than you are on day 3. Most generally get really horny around day three, and it stays that way up to around day 12-20. Many experience mood swings, get emotial etc, and also a flat line stage afterwards (not horny at all)
- Channel your energy into productive things, dont dwell upon being sexually frustrated, use the frustration energy instead to do producing things to better yourself and feel better. BECOME THE PERSON YOU HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE.
As one guy said in the last thread:
Originally Posted by hilariousninja View Post
Clear thinking; Breathe better; Smoother mood transitions; Sharper mental dexterity; More articulate; Better memory; Working through stress more effectively; Increased energy levels; Reduced depression ; Deeper interactions with others; Improved integrity; Boosted confidence; No social anxiety; Better focus on task at hand; Enjoying simple pleasures more deeply; Increased faith in ability to control negative mental triggers ; No risk of arrest or legal troubles; Increased joy; Renewed self-respect; More free time; Need to sleep less; More free cash; Confidence to try new things; Increased humility: Asking others for help; Better partnership with girlfriend; Better ability to learn and remember new things and new ‘songs’; Can travel without paranoia of border checks; No worries about of being found by somebody; Not supporting organized crime; True bonds with friends; Better fitness level; New doors opening to spiritual world; Confidence to take on any task; to strike up conversation with anyone I choose without fear or insecurity; No paranoia; Increased motivation for self-improvement; Feeling of wholeness that is not reliant on an external source ; Not being enslaved by the need for porn; No more feeling guilty; Saving time; Communicating more; Renewed sense to sensations; So much more energy than before ; Deeper philosophical thinking; Way more patience; Increased brainpower and mental endurance; Regain of focus to finish one job before starting the next one; Waking up in the morning feeling rested; The return of wit; Improved ability to relate; Regain of job satisfaction; Stronger mental control over moods and thought processes; Better crisis management; Experiencing natural highs; The ability to inspire other people; The development of healthy habits; A sharper mental game; Increased muscle tone; Heightened sense of humor; More love towards life; Better response to emotionally charged situations; Renewed sense of life, waking up to greet the morning sun and air; Easier to get out of bed; Development of mature, competent coping mechanisms; Feeling in control always; A stronger sense of optimism about life; Being better at controlling other aspects of life, like cooking, exercising etc. Improved quality of work; More present for family and friends; More agility and awareness; No need to worry about porn; I am not constantly craving something every time I get bored or stressed; Better health, less sickness; Reduced anger; Better communication of feelings; Dramatic improvement of self-esteem; Being more interesting person; Clearer memories; More laughs; No panic attacks; Feeling of more freedom; Better teamwork; Reduced anxiety; No more eye strain or need of eye drops; Reduced paper tissue consumption; The joy of making things happen and being powerful; Enjoying the daylight and sunlight; Enjoying the observation of lives around; Better emotional health; Emotional energy savings; Feeling intense emotions without being ruled by them; Strength to keep going when the going gets tough; Joy of keeping promises; Enjoyment of the relaxed mental state; Improved courage; Reduced desk clutter; Increased trust; Joy of sharing; Success.
That's phucking why *******. Now get out there and be the best you can be.
Originally Posted by re972012 View Post
Hello Misc my name is ****** ********** and I am addicted to fapping.
Been lurking since December 2011 and my motivation to write this post is for almost entirely selfish purposes, so please feel free to ignore my life story and shameless self promotion.
Anyway I will start with the bad news; I am tall, attractive often charismatic and generally regarded by most as a nice guy (disregarding white knight side effects). And yet on the eve of yet another Saturday night with no plans I kneel before the misc as a 19 year old virgin who hasn't kissed a girl in over two years. Like everyone else growing up I suffered my insecurities, acne and excessive underarm sweating became the bane of my existence. These alongside a slightly delayed puberty eventually spiraled in to shaking and anxiety whenever things got intimate with girls. Feeling nervous in real life situations only magnified my desire to fap, there was no embarrassing repercussions for finishing too quickly or having sweat marks, it was just me and my computer. 2 or 3 times a day without fail allowed me to escape my reality and live in a protective bubble from about the age of 14 onwards. Despite my dark secret I managed to maintain the existence of a normal life to the outside world, I was popular due to my sporting talents and consequently girls always showed interest. Yet like so many addicts before me when faced with the opportunity of tackling my issues head on, I chose the safe option preferring to fap over these girls who wanted my cawk in the real world. I think you would all agree a rather tragic state of affairs.
Here comes the good news. This thread and subsequently Your Brain on Porn was without doubt the single greatest AHA! moment of life. Everything clicked into place, it hadn't crossed my mind and I genuinely thought my fapping was normal and well relatively healthy. So here I am now having tried with various half hearted attempts since December I am ready to make the biggest commitment of my life so far, tomorrow is Day 1. I am aware that no fap alone will not solve my problems, but instead work as a catalyst to help me achieve my goals and improve my life. My main short term goal is to become the fittest, most charismatic and intelligent version of myself by the time I start uni in September. If I make this happen I will have my pick of the women and essentially be living the student dream. Very strong words and yet by my making small achievable goals fuelled by the energy and intensity of no fap it I will make it happen.
Gym four times a week with a proper routine and dedicated gym partner, come september, 6ft 2 and built I will be batting them off with a stick. Making an effort to make conversation with anybody coupled with a generally positive dont give a f*** outlook, I will slowly develop that natural aura of calm confidence you come to associate with the most respected males. Finally by starting to apply an industrious work ethic to both schoolwork and outside reading I wish to prepare myself for a life of hard work following my passions with relentless dedication. All the while being wary of treading into the realms of arrogance and making to sure to assist those less fortunate than myself. I can say with a slight smile on my face that the misc and this thread in particular has changed my life, only as I started to break away from this addiction did I realize how lucky I am to be alive. Those moments of pure happiness you experience I had suffocated myself from as I endulged my pathetic addiction. That part of me is dead.
This is my life and it is ending one minute at a time.
Today is Day 90 for me, and as promised, here is my comprehensive post about it. I am just going to throw it all out here, so it may be a little disorganized. Obviously, the idea of writing a huge thesis on No-Fap for a bunch of internet friends isn't entirely enticing, but I feel I owe it to many of you as it is probably the best thing I have every done for myself.
I guess I should start with some details about myself. I grew up as a fat kid with no friends... you know the story. Low self-esteem and self-worth, no girl friends, and hardly any guy friends. No sports, not much at all to live for. Poor academic performance on top of that. The people I did befriend I gave my everything to. That was all I really had. I remember figuring out what exactly fapping was one night when I was thirteen. After obviously becoming heavily enticed with the feeling, I introduced porn into the equation and the rest is history. I would fap probably eight to ten times a week from the age of thirteen on.
Once I turned 16 I decided that I was through being fat, so I lost about 75 pounds total during my junior year of high school. I was still the same kid, just skinny and flabby. Girls started coming out of the woodwork, confidence developed little by little, and I discovered proper nutrition and dieting. But I was still a pretty insecure pile of skin, fat, and bone. Still fapped during this time because I was still a virgin and there was no end to that in sight. I continued to fight constant bouts of one-itis with females throughout the remainder of high school, and it continued on to the beginning of college. Eventually, I got a job in sales, ascended to a management position and dropped out of classes to make more money, and gained about 40 pounds of lean body mass. I saved money, taught myself the things I loved, and worked decently hard. Now I am as confident as can be and have no real trouble with anything I work hard toward. But fapping remained, and I never really thought it was a problem.
This past fall, I was playing in a football game that my team desperately needed to win. The conditions outside were poor, and it was a low-scoring game. The team had started me at wide receiver because I was one of the fastest players on my team despite my size, and one of the most athletic ones there. In the third quarter I got behind the guy matched up on me and the quarterback laid one right on my hands. I would have walked in to the end zone and given my team a comfortable lead. Instead, I lost my focus and looked up-field way too early, dropped the ball and it deflected into the hands of a defender, who managed to return it for a touchdown. We lost that game.
While this may seem insignificant, this one event in my life is really what caused this whole thing. After that game I just sat in silence the whole way home. I just thought about all the times I had ever disappointed myself, and all the times I slacked off. I decided that I would pinpoint all of the things that I did not like about myself, and take steps to change them. An addiction to diet soft drinks and a bad fapping habit were both some things I wanted to eliminate. Four days later, I saw this thread, and began No Fap. Two weeks after that, I drank my last diet soft drink.
At first, No Fap came pretty easily to me. By the time I had reached adult years (18+) I really only fapped 3-4 times a week (with porn). I had done a No Fap month before, so I knew I had a few weeks in me. The first two to three weeks were filled with strength gains, talking to more people, walking with posture and purpose, and lots of smiles. I approached more females than I normally would. I would not be intimidated by much. I had a job interview around week 3. The woman who interviewed me ate my **** for breakfast, lunch and dinner and hired me on the spot. I have since left the job due to a few creative differences, but the results hit me hard and I began to realize that this was not just the product of a simple placebo effect.
Shortly after this interview, I met someone in the gym who wanted to recruit me for his football team. It is officially termed a "semi-pro" / amateur team. So I began to train with him in preparation for the team combine in March. We have become great friends and we work hard every single day together. I noticed that my lifts were progressing nicely each week (aided by a small increase in calories consumed) and that we were both improving athletically and functionally. I began being known as one of the friendliest people in the gym, working out with a wide array of others at times, learning names, recognizing people, and making conversation. It all was becoming easier for me (I never had a real problem with this, but in my head I just WANTED to be more of a social butterfly). I had become so much more goal-oriented than at any previous point in my life. Then I made a decision that I think is the most adult one I have ever made in my life.
I applied to a local community college, got accepted, and paid out of pocket for more than the required amount of credit hours. I am going back to school and pursuing an education. This has always come difficult for me because I was always the kid in high school who just skated by despite having some potential to do some good things. I just didn't care. I was a lazy piece of fat unmotivated ****. But not anymore. I felt this fire inside of me during to my football workouts, the reception I received from other people, and all of the other good things I was doing. So it was time for it to all come full-circle. I start next Tuesday. I am extremely motivated, and a full 4.0 is my goal. Then I want to move on to a good university.
Overall, No Fap may or may not be a placebo effect. I really don't know. But what I do know, is that defeating this urge (the strongest urge known to man) has given me the energy and direction required to conquer anything I want to conquer. It has made me realize that hard work and discipline are required, but I can truly do anything. It has allowed me to pour my heart into my passions. It has helped me to look at life as a constant challenge, and that I must improve myself and help others every day. Sexual transmutation is a very real thing, and after much reading, I am positive that sexual transmutation is taking place inside my body. I have channeled my sexual energy into every single thing I want to do in this life, and it is working 110%.
Physically, I made great gains in the gym during this time. Adding five pounds on every lift every week, looking pretty big despite some small fat gains, cardio endurance has gone up, and most importantly, there is no more quit in me. I've been able to persevere a lot of hard training so far, but I just never quit. I always have gas in the tank. My motor does not run out as long as the fire burns. Skin has cleared up, hair has become stronger and fuller (and it grows quicker), and recovery has sped up post-workout. I feel like the best version of myself in each new day,
Mentally, I have experienced a great calm over the past 90 days. I am able to think critically about things, make snap decisions that usually end up being the right ones, and I generally have a great attitude about myself and where I am going. I have the ability to dedicate myself to a task and to communicate my ideas fluently and efficiently. I have taken up reading and now love it. I still love Misc'ing but now I find myself searching for the useful topics and most of all, giving advice to those who need it. I feel it is my duty.
Sexually, admittedly I have not experienced much. I have not engaged in sexual activity over the course of the past 90 days. I can feel that my standards have dropped. I could have had sex with maybe 23 different girls over this time but I am so dedicated to my goals and ambitions that I just have not wanted the distraction. Morning wood is a problem but it passes. I have not had many wet dreams. When I next have sex with a girl, I am going to tell her straight up what the deal is. I'm gunna bust fast, but then be ready for round 2 rather quickly, and that'll be the end of it. I don't associate with trashy women, and I don't do ONS with chicks, so she will understand.
I don't know what is next for me. I start school next week... I am two months out from this football combine I have worked so hard to perform well at... I am turning 21 this year. Who knows. But what I do know is that, despite getting a few strong urges a week, I will move past them and not fap again. I am so afraid that if I fap, my drive will go away. I wanna keep this fire lit because I feel like I cannot be stopped. It's the God's honest truth. Sexual transmutation is real and it is at work here. So it can be a placebo... that's fine. All I care about now, whether it is one or not, is that every day I am a better version of myself.
So, ground rules have been laid out by the forum that basically got this whole trend going. Apparently F2B is already well on his way and is leading this charge. Essentially, I see this as a challenge of will and fortitude. My goal is to use any frustrations as further motivation for accomplishing valuable real world goals. Work harder, meet more people, be more social (not as if this is an issue), and get away from the wimpo lifestyle normally associated with those addicted.... video games, junk food, and p0rn... end all ties to that junk and focus on the gym, self improvement, and real world accomplishments.
For this thread, post progress, updates, joining, failing, faltering, whatever. Should be interesting to say the least. I'm on day 4.