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Nt_loader 08-29-2012 06:36 PM

IT Guys - Need to upgrade a hard drive
 
I have a laptop with a 64gb hard drive, as you can imagine I have very little room left. I purchased a 128gb SSD the other day with the intent to install it tomorrow.

What is the most simple way for me to transfer everything over? I know I can use the windows profile transfer but im not sure if that will move programs. I looked at a few cloning programs but im not sure if they will work with different drive sizes.

Im open to suggestions and recommendations, what is your method for replacing/upgrading hard drives?

braymond141 08-29-2012 07:30 PM

HDClone is excellent, simple, and fast. http://www.miray.de/products/sat.hdclone.html

I hope you're not using XP with that solid state though.

mcygan67 08-29-2012 07:48 PM

If you are using Windows and has been for a few years, it may be worth while to do a fresh install as the Windows' registry would, by now, be really messy and you will find a fresh install will improve performance.

Nt_loader 08-29-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by braymond141 (Post 14690903)
HDClone is excellent, simple, and fast. http://www.miray.de/products/sat.hdclone.html

I hope you're not using XP with that solid state though.

Im using Windows 7, I was also looking at clonezilla.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcygan67 (Post 14690963)
If you are using Windows and has been for a few years, it may be worth while to do a fresh install as the Windows' registry would, by now, be really messy and you will find a fresh install will improve performance.

Good point, I may actually do just that. I just dont want to install the 20+ apps I have installed.

Zell 08-29-2012 08:02 PM

Winclone. It's an amazing tool. I use it for backups all the time, but it also does drive cloning. It's extremely fast. I'm talking, high compression, 90GB worth of stuff backed up wirelessly to my server in 1.5 hours.

http://twocanoes.com/winclone/

scott0482 08-29-2012 08:08 PM

You also have to (probably should) align the SSD if you clone it from a standard hard drive..

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...alignment.html

braymond141 08-29-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nt_loader (Post 14690979)
Im using Windows 7, I was also looking at clonezilla.

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Good good. Make sure you are using updated AHCI drivers that better support TRIM for SSDs. http://www.station-drivers.com/telec...ivers.com).exe Alignment is up to you, but not needed.

Additionally, with a modern computer it really isn't necessary to do a clean install for "speed". There is very little to be gained if you already have a clean working OS/Program setup.

MachRc 08-29-2012 08:28 PM

you will be disappointed with realizing sata2's sub 300mb read and write compared to sata3's 500-600mb read and write. BUt it wont matter because it will still be blazing fast.

HDclone or you can go oldschool like norton ghost.

you might not have to ahci since the laptop prob doesn't support sata3 but i guess I would do it anyways even though there are very little gains over regular ide.

just picked up third vertex4 240)something) 120 wasnt cutting it.

braymond141 08-29-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MachRc (Post 14691067)
you will be disappointed with realizing sata2's sub 300mb read and write compared to sata3's 500-600mb read and write. BUt it wont matter because it will still be blazing fast.

HDclone or you can go oldschool like norton ghost.

you might not have to ahci since the laptop prob doesn't support sata3 but i guess I would do it anyways even though there are very little gains over regular ide.

just picked up third vertex4 240)something) 120 wasnt cutting it.

Current laptops support SATA3 natively. I wouldn't assume NT has something too old... as far as I remember he's quite into the software side of technology.

For proper TRIM support the bios must be set to AHCI. IDE will kill off your SSD.

The indilinx controllers are too slow in my opinion. Whether or not the new drives have insane IOP's, they feel slower than the Agility/Vertex 3 series (which have finally been solid for awhile now). As buggy as the Sandforce controllers are... when the firmware is right, they are extremely fast. Maybe the indilinx will gain in speed, but I was not impressed with them... even in RAID 0 they were slow.

Nt_loader 08-29-2012 08:41 PM

Ok I forgot to mention the hard drive is encypted with truecrypt, I wonder if I will need to un-install it before make a clone of it.

braymond141 08-29-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nt_loader (Post 14691098)
Ok I forgot to mention the hard drive is encypted with truecrypt, I wonder if I will need to un-install it before make a clone of it.

Yes, you probably will have to.

Green_Shine 08-29-2012 08:52 PM

Reinstall windows and then robocopy

Nt_loader 08-30-2012 09:35 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions, here is what I am doing.

Purchased a Micro Sata SSD to USB connector from Fry's first thing this morning. I am using HD Clone to copy over the smaller hard drive to the new drive, I didnt remove the encryption as a test to see if it will actually work.

I will post back the results when im done :)

Nt_loader 08-30-2012 10:21 AM

Well that didnt work, removing the encryption now and trying again.

MachRc 08-30-2012 10:22 AM

well now we know !

scott0482 08-30-2012 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by braymond141 (Post 14691089)
Current laptops support SATA3 natively. I wouldn't assume NT has something too old... as far as I remember he's quite into the software side of technology.

For proper TRIM support the bios must be set to AHCI. IDE will kill off your SSD.

The indilinx controllers are too slow in my opinion. Whether or not the new drives have insane IOP's, they feel slower than the Agility/Vertex 3 series (which have finally been solid for awhile now). As buggy as the Sandforce controllers are... when the firmware is right, they are extremely fast. Maybe the indilinx will gain in speed, but I was not impressed with them... even in RAID 0 they were slow.


I killed an SSD by using it in a Dell Latitude D620. Even though the chipset supports AHCI, they removed it from the bios..

JonJon 08-30-2012 10:50 AM

This thread reminded my how much you fall off hardware knowledge by entering management.

Lol

accolade 08-30-2012 10:52 AM

I have to ask, from the first time you posted I've always thought your name was a reference to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NT_loader

Was I right?

Nt_loader 08-30-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonJon (Post 14692433)
This thread reminded my how much you fall off hardware knowledge by entering management.

Lol

Yea tell me about, I havent been hands on in MANY years. All I know how to do is build teams and motivate/empower people to get the job done.

Nt_loader 08-30-2012 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accolade (Post 14692440)
I have to ask, from the first time you posted I've always thought your name was a reference to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NT_loader

Was I right?

Definately :thumbsup:


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