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Barneyhyphen 09-01-2012 05:57 PM

Head will NOT separate from block
2000 323i. I have battled for 3 hours to separate the head from the block with NO success.

Could someone please confirm there are 14 head bolts PLUS two smaller bolts, one in each corner at the front of the head, holding the dead to the block.

Please tell me there are NO more bolts hidden anywhere.



Stinger9 09-01-2012 06:02 PM

Wow, tough going.
I'd say if you've cleared all accessories, it's just a matter of finding a way to pry that head off.
What about getting a thin cold chisel and gently working it in at one corner and tapping it in?

Barneyhyphen 09-01-2012 06:19 PM

Dont really want to go anywhere near any of the surfaces with anything screwdriver/chisel like.

What I HAVE done is inserted an Long Oxygen sensor socket in to the water pump port with a 3/8" socket extension bar inserted in to the socket, extendond out about 4-5" beyond the front face of the head and placed a bottle (hydraulic) jack, between the crankshaft pulley and the above mentioned extension bar. then applied jack but STILL not moving.

Do I have the bolt count correct or is there another hidden bolt?

shanneba 09-01-2012 06:30 PM

There are 14 head bolts.
Did you remove the water pipe?


Barneyhyphen 09-01-2012 06:40 PM

Thank you for the TIS. Yes, have removed the water pipe nut and pulled pipe clear.

This isn't a case of the head moving but just won't come free....it's as solid as it would be if I hadn't removed any head bolts!!!!!!!


NOVAbimmer 09-01-2012 06:49 PM

Well, I've never removed the head on my 330, but from other experiences, you're looking at a unit that hasn't been taken apart in 13 years, and for (I'm guessing) at least 150k miles.

Reach deep down, grab some testicular fortitude, and pry hard. Also, the cold chisel around the edges isn't a bad idea. Be gentle, and it should work just fine.

Barneyhyphen 09-01-2012 07:56 PM

I think I agree. The 13 years and 147k has taken it's toll! moderate Testicular fortutude, along with bottle jack, 4 lb club hammer and large screwdriver all applied. Still no movement!!!!!

I'm leaving it overnight under jack pressure and liberal spraying of penetrating fluid. It may "pop" overnight. Yeh, 1/1000 chance.

Any and all other suggestions willingly accepted.


Barneyhyphen 09-01-2012 07:59 PM

In the past 40 years, I've probably done 8-9 head gaskets....this one HAS to be the most tedious I have ever encountered.

In retrospect, it would have been far quicker to pull the engine to tackle this job.


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