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dinan19 10-03-2012 01:00 AM

ZHP Suspension help. (want lowest drop springs)
 


Like the title says I'm looking for lowering springs only that give the zhp the absolute lowest ride height. I found a few pics of a zhp with h&r race but not much content so I'm unsure. So yeah again looking for the lowest drop, slammed almost I guess. Also raceland is not an option lol.

e46ornothing 10-03-2012 01:26 AM

Coil overs.. The lowest for our cars is h&r race series.. That's wat I have.. Ur not ganna get slammed on springs enless u cut them lol

dinan19 10-03-2012 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by e46ornothing (Post 14783083)
Coil overs.. The lowest for our cars is h&r race series.. That's wat I have.. Ur not ganna get slammed on springs enless u cut them lol

haha yeah i looked and figured the race will be the lowest.:banghead: I just dont want to get coilovers because i dont want to spend a ton of money just because i want to lower it. Im not going to track the car or anything, its just going to be a daily driver with some occasional spirited driving. Mainly want the drop for looks. Will the H&R races tuck tire at all with the stock wheels or even if i get 19's? Also can i remove the rubber spacer or whatever?

e46/hitman 10-03-2012 02:12 AM

eibach sportlines have a nice drop.

dinan19 10-03-2012 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by e46/hitman (Post 14783150)
eibach sportlines have a nice drop.

Im just not sure because from what i understand my car already is lower to begin with so im worried that with the races, sportlines etc. I will not get much of a drop. Or am i wrong?

e46ornothing 10-03-2012 08:58 PM

Well to answer ur questions in order.. Lol

1. Yes h&r race springs will tuck ur tires.. Quite a bit actually.. When I put the springs on I had 17" stock wheels and they were tucking.. Now I have 18" bbs's an it's still tucking.. I'm sure you'll still be tucking with 19" but u might have to roll ur fenders if I go with 19".. IMO 19" is too big for our cars.. Lol Ill see if I have any recent pics of mine..

2. No u can't take the rubber pads off cause that's the only thing holding them in there place.. Trust me I thought about doing that too lol

e46ornothing 10-03-2012 09:04 PM

Oh and 3. It will drop a lot more than ur stock springs.. When u say that ur car is lower already.. Do u mean u have aftermarket springs already or ur low with ur zhp springs compared to the stock e46? If it talking about bring "low already" with ur zhp springs.. Then just wait till u install the race springs..

dinan19 10-04-2012 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by e46ornothing (Post 14785875)
Oh and 3. It will drop a lot more than ur stock springs.. When u say that ur car is lower already.. Do u mean u have aftermarket springs already or ur low with ur zhp springs compared to the stock e46? If it talking about bring "low already" with ur zhp springs.. Then just wait till u install the race springs..

Yeah I think I'm just gonna get coil overs cuz I know I won't be happy if I get springs. I need to be able to adjust the ride how exactly how I want. Thanks for the help.

ac_2007 10-04-2012 03:34 PM

Every thread like this should start by mentioning a budget.

dinan19 10-04-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ac_2007 (Post 14788240)
Every thread like this should start by mentioning a budget.

Well all the springs are pretty much under $300 but I decided to get coil overs so that's what I'm looking for now. Either raceland or rokkor. Can I close the thread?

dinan19 10-04-2012 03:49 PM

Or should I just edit the thread title to looking for raceland like my other one?

LeMansteve 10-04-2012 04:20 PM

Do what you want, but this is my opinion on Rokkor/Raceland cheap-ass coilovers:

http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...=#post14768536

dinan19 10-04-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LeMansteve (Post 14788406)
Do what you want, but this is my opinion on Rokkor/Raceland cheap-ass coilovers:

http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...=#post14768536

Yeah no I completely understand that they are not the best quality but since it's just a daily driver and I just want to be able to adjust the ride height I think they will be fine.

ac_2007 10-04-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dinan19 (Post 14788293)
Well all the springs are pretty much under $300 but I decided to get coil overs so that's what I'm looking for now. Either raceland or rokkor. Can I close the thread?

I honestly hope you're joking. That's the worst decision you could make.

... and its not even just about ride quality. Those coilovers are literally the shit-pit of the suspension spectrum.
You will be putting your life at risk.

euG! 10-05-2012 12:52 AM

IMO you're ruining a great car. I had Racelands with Koni STR.T rear struts for a year and went back to ZHP springs with koni yellows. Ride is exceptional and handles way better. If you don't mind a noisy, bumpy, sh*tty & embarrasing ride... Racelands are the way to get that extreme drop. I hated my Racelands and was even too embarrassed to have people ride in my car.

dinan19 10-05-2012 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by euG! (Post 14789694)
IMO you're ruining a great car. I had Racelands with Koni STR.T rear struts for a year and went back to ZHP springs with koni yellows. Ride is exceptional and handles way better. If you don't mind a noisy, bumpy, sh*tty & embarrasing ride... Racelands are the way to get that extreme drop. I hated my Racelands and was even too embarrassed to have people ride in my car.

Jesus are they really that bad? So they people that are running them are they just lying to not look like they made a bad purchase but in their in mind they know they ride like garbage? You know what i mean its just idk because half say they are fine and half say they stink
Lmao i dont even know anymore. Well if someone has a used set of something a little more reputable i guess, ill just keep looking in the classifieds.
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Bmw0224 10-05-2012 01:36 AM

Can someone post pics of h&r suspension tore tuck

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LeMansteve 10-05-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by euG! (Post 14789694)
IMO you're ruining a great car. I had Racelands with Koni STR.T rear struts for a year and went back to ZHP springs with koni yellows. Ride is exceptional and handles way better. If you don't mind a noisy, bumpy, sh*tty & embarrasing ride... Racelands are the way to get that extreme drop. I hated my Racelands and was even too embarrassed to have people ride in my car.

Good summary. You get what you pay for.


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Originally Posted by dinan19 (Post 14789714)
Jesus are they really that bad? So they people that are running them are they just lying to not look like they made a bad purchase but in their in mind they know they ride like garbage? You know what i mean its just idk because half say they are fine and half say they stink
Lmao i dont even know anymore. Well if someone has a used set of something a little more reputable i guess, ill just keep looking in the classifieds.

Most folks are likely buying them just for the drop. Not a problem, unless you actually plan on driving the car over 10mph. About the ride quality, I'm guessing you have 4 types of Rokkor customers. Those that:
1. don't care about ride quality
2. somehow think its normal for a lowered suspension
3. won't acknowledge it sucks, out of pride
4. are completely surprised and take them off the car

Don't cheap out on suspension! Look for name brand stuff (Koni, Bilstein, Sachs, etc). It is a critical component of the car and one of the many outstanding parts of the E46. Buying a $400 coilover kit is the equivalent of walking into the BMW suspension engineer's office and taking a gigantic dump all over his work.

euG! 10-05-2012 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinan19 (Post 14789714)
Jesus are they really that bad? So they people that are running them are they just lying to not look like they made a bad purchase but in their in mind they know they ride like garbage? You know what i mean its just idk because half say they are fine and half say they stink
Lmao i dont even know anymore. Well if someone has a used set of something a little more reputable i guess, ill just keep looking in the classifieds.
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Yes they are pretty bad. IMO they may be lying to themselves or just ignorant and don't know what a good adtermarket suspension feels like. They're cheap enough to give them a try. Just don't go selling your stock suspension right away because you may need them sooner than you think. My personal opinion is that you can't have one without sacrificing the other. Either you go slammed without performance or performance without being slammed.

dinan19 10-05-2012 12:41 PM

Ok thanks guys appreciate it. Yeah ill just wait and find a used set in the classifieds for something more substancial.


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