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tiloulou330i 11-23-2012 03:42 PM

First time gun purchaser looking for advice.....
 
I just got my permit to purchase a handgun from the people's republic of New Jersey and I need to buy an all-metal pistol.Don't care about the weight since it's going to be a HD and range gun...I have an $800 budget.Any recommendation?

Serbonze 11-23-2012 03:56 PM

Have you read through the sticky at the top titled "Handgun Buying 101"? There is a lot of very useful information that you will help you narrow down your choices prior to asking for a general recommendation. Any particular reason you are limiting yourself to an all-metal pistol?

tiloulou330i 11-23-2012 04:13 PM

I heard that all metal guns have better recoil making them more appropriate for a first time shooter.

fitzi6_7 11-23-2012 04:29 PM

What do you mean by better recoil?
Recoil primarily stems from caliber/weight and style and varies. You said it was primarily a range gun and that leads me to believe that you are looking for a target pistol. Are you looking for semi auto single shot revolver?

What is the most important thing you are looking for?

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Reedo302 11-23-2012 06:05 PM

Every gun will feel different, and just because a gun is made of metal does not mean it'll have less recoil. Go to a gun range that rents pistols and shoot until you find a few you like, then decide from there.

FTLAUDM3 11-23-2012 10:55 PM

How many do you plan to own? Can you Carry in your state? There are few things to consider - looks, how it feels in hand, and how u shoot it. I would get a 9mm since its cheaper to shoot and jhp rounds are plenty for HD. My top recommendations would be Glock 19, M&P 9c, or XDM 3.8. They are the best sellers right now for a reason. The best classic design is the 1911. Fire a few at a range and then pick the one you like best. I like glocks..very reliable and eat any ammo.

ryanwhite74115 11-23-2012 11:36 PM

Sig Sauer *cough* P229 *cough*

:eeps:

GlockMan 11-24-2012 10:24 AM

Shoot a Glock 19. If you don't hate it, buy it.

There are many advantages to it as a first real gun.

Very reliable.
Very little maintenance.
Very good value overall.
Very easy to take apart and clean.
Holds its value very well.

Down the road you will know more about what you wish you had (if anything.)

kaput 11-24-2012 10:38 AM

Glock man speaks the truth. I bought a Glock 19 as my first gun, and I will probably never sell it. It never jams, everytime I pull the trigger it goes pop, accurate, light, easy to conceal, easy to mod (don't get carried away here) and with 9mm, it is cheap and easy to not only practice but +P ammo with be a great protection ammo.

There are others out there, and many styles and tastes. For my money, I would buy the glock before owning anything. Not saying the others are bad, but the reliability and ease of use make it the best in the defensive category way ahead of the others.

JTLaz 11-24-2012 12:13 PM

I'm a fan of the Beretta M9 all-metal frames. We can throw out suggestions all day. Just go into a gun store and try holding them. From there try to see if you can go to a range that rents the ones you like to test fire some rounds through.

Reedo302 11-24-2012 05:02 PM

Definitely go to a gun store or range and get some hands-on time. With that said, do not buy the gun right then and there unless you are absolutely certain you know what you are getting. There are a number of gun counter guys who have an agenda they are trying to push, and I've seen these guys try and push guns that people either did not want, or had no business buying. Case in point is with a 1911. Some are good, some aren't, but if you don't know what to look for, you can be in a world of hurt. Then there's the occassional moron that will try and convince you that a S&W Sigma is just as good as a Glock, or that a Norinco pistol will be just as good as a Sig. Also, beware of the gun counter guy that says you have to have _____ caliber because it's more powerful/bigger/more death power than other loads. By now it should be common knowledge that most combat-capable pistol calibers perform the exact same across the board, but unfortunately you have a lot of people stuck in ignorance or emotional investment in a specific caliber being superior for some intangible reason.
Ideally, you want to go into a gun shop with a friend that you trust that knows their stuff about guns, but I understand that that's not always possible. Friends that know stuff about guns are always willing to go with you to a gun shop or range. My friends won't buy a gun without consulting me first, and they won't go to a gun shop to buy unless I go with them. Not because I make them, but because they know that I won't steer them wrong and I won't let a gun counter guy blow smoke up their ass.

Locutus09 11-24-2012 08:38 PM

Don't dismiss the S&W M&P.

It's a completely different animal than the S&W Sigma. IMO it gives the Glock a run for it's money.

NOVAbimmer 11-24-2012 10:48 PM

love my glock 21A. It was my first firearm, and I can't imagine finding another handgun that I'd keep by my bed.

GasKing 11-25-2012 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMan (Post 14923016)
Shoot a Glock 19. If you don't hate it, buy it.

There are many advantages to it as a first real gun.

Very reliable.
Very little maintenance.
Very good value overall.
Very easy to take apart and clean.
Holds its value very well.

Down the road you will know more about what you wish you had (if anything.)

+1 Everyone should own a GLOCK.

tiloulou330i 11-25-2012 08:00 PM

Thanks guys for the sound advices.I narrow it down to Glock 19 gen 4 and S&W M&P 9 range kit.I really wanted a Sig P226 stainless steel but after further thinking I think it's wiser to get something cheaper to practice.I live in a communist state called NJ,so CCW is almost impossible to get.Here in this state,each time you need to purchase a handgun you have to have a permit to purchase(P2P) which is a lengthy process.

NOVAbimmer 11-25-2012 08:19 PM

You can't go wrong with either of those. Keep the Sig in your thoughts as well, as they're generally really great guns. At the very least, if you don't like the Sig, you can re-sell it for a reasonable price. I've never known anyone to buy a Sig and not like it.

ryanwhite74115 11-25-2012 09:47 PM

Sig sauer fo lyfe yoooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Serbonze 11-26-2012 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiloulou330i (Post 14925911)
Thanks guys for the sound advices.I narrow it down to Glock 19 gen 4 and S&W M&P 9 range kit.I really wanted a Sig P226 stainless steel but after further thinking I think it's wiser to get something cheaper to practice.I live in a communist state called NJ,so CCW is almost impossible to get.Here in this state,each time you need to purchase a handgun you have to have a permit to purchase(P2P) which is a lengthy process.

I actually own both of those, but carry a Glock 19 gen 3 on a daily basis.

The triggers are very different between the Glock and the M&P, so make sure that you get some time behind both before you make your decision. They are also not an apples to apples comparison, because the Glock is a sub-compact (smaller) than the standard M&P 9. I think a closer comparision is the Glock 17.

The range kit is nice, since it includes the mag pouch, extra mag, and the holster. However, living in NJ really precludes you from using those. You can save a little money by getting a standard M&P 9.

HiHoBrian 11-26-2012 07:29 AM

I agree with everyone reccomending a Glock as a first purchase. I started with a Sig 229,got a few in between and my last purchase for carry was a Glock 27. I wish I knew sooner. I can easily trust my life with the Glock. It will not fail. The others are all very good as well and with your budget you cant really go wrong but if you have to ask-that's the answer.


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GlockMan 11-26-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serbonze (Post 14926783)
I actually own both of those, but carry a Glock 19 gen 3 on a daily basis.

They are also not an apples to apples comparison, because the Glock is a sub-compact (smaller) than the standard M&P 9. I think a closer comparision is the Glock 17.

Glock 17L = longest made
Glock 34 = competition
Glock 17 = normal
Glock 19 = compact
Glock 26 = sub compact

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