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daniel_f. 11-24-2012 04:37 AM

How to upgrade auto tranny?
 
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hello guys,

iīm curious about all those forced induction guys running auto trannys and sometimes even run shorter diffs.

how to those guys prevent their transmission from going into limp mode at high speeds?

i dynoed my car (2002 330iCA with 3.91 diff) yesterday at 236hp in fourth gear were torque isnīt limited and when measured in fifth gear the transmission ecu lowers the power to 204hp.
thats exactly why the car feels awefull in fifth gear at speeds over 200km/h. :censor: It accelerates easily to 200km/h in fourth gear just to flatten out at 220 in fifth gear.

is there some tuner able to unlock this limiter? i really want to get rid of it :tsk:

BDUB328I 11-24-2012 09:37 AM

swap it for a manual? i sold my complete swap for $1000. im sure the guy who bought it was very happy with it

daniel_f. 11-24-2012 10:26 AM

Nope, will stick with auto as iīm driving in traffic jam to often.

TrippinBimmer 11-24-2012 10:37 AM

any tranny mods?

daniel_f. 11-24-2012 11:13 AM

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the tranny itself is stock, overhauled at 99.000km with now 24.000km used. iīm running Z4 Software and the egs was upgraded with the economy mod from eduard aka megawatt. the diff was changed from 3.38 to 3.91 which gives much better response.

just to be precise: i donīt want to go FI, iīm just curious if the FI guys have the same problem like i have right now.

5600rpm in fifth gear, everything is well.

5700rpm in fifth gear and the tranny goes into limp mode.

I just want to get rid of that secondary speed limiter in the tranny ecu :censor:

NFSx328ci 11-24-2012 11:18 AM

Im new to the Force induction myself but I am doing a complete ZHP manual tranny conversion swap, including drive shaft and differential and with UUC lightweight flywheel and clutch setups. I pretty much have everything now. Yesterday was my go crazy and purchase and pick it all up day.

NFSx328ci 11-24-2012 11:28 AM

I was having trouble finding everything to upgrade my steptronic so manual was the next best thing.

TrippinBimmer 11-24-2012 02:01 PM

I have hit 155 on my step with no issues. But that before the eco mod.

daniel_f. 11-25-2012 03:13 AM

Well, ZHP uses GM tranny, maybe the limits are different to my ZF.

It seems to depend on the rpmīs rather then the speed itself. the car made 240km/h with the long diff, and now it goes 220-225km/h with the short diff, as the tranny ecu lowers the power to around 200hp

TrippinBimmer 11-25-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel_f. (Post 14924557)
Well, ZHP uses GM tranny, maybe the limits are different to my ZF.

It seems to depend on the rpmīs rather then the speed itself. the car made 240km/h with the long diff, and now it goes 220-225km/h with the short diff, as the tranny ecu lowers the power to around 200hp

I am using a 3.64 diff. hmmm

daniel_f. 11-25-2012 08:57 AM

well, 155mph is pretty much 250km/h which is reached at 5700rpm. i guess the zhp egs is limited to higher rpms due to the shorter diff. :hmm::eeps:

Jim Murphy 11-28-2012 04:03 PM

My ZF tranny out of my ZHP is sitting up at IPT getting the complete upgrade overhaul as it started slipping in 2/3 and 3/4 shifts. The OS Giken also set off the codes about "wrong wheel speeds". I should have it back end of next week. We will see.

Jim
My garage tells you what has been done to this ZHP

BDUB328I 11-28-2012 05:53 PM

about how much is the cost of having one of these auto tranny's built? and what is included

TrippinBimmer 11-28-2012 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BDUB328I (Post 14935066)
about how much is the cost of having one of these auto tranny's built? and what is included

5 Grand

PEI330Ci 11-29-2012 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Murphy (Post 14934756)
My ZF tranny out of my ZHP is sitting up at IPT getting the complete upgrade overhaul as it started slipping in 2/3 and 3/4 shifts. The OS Giken also set off the codes about "wrong wheel speeds". I should have it back end of next week. We will see.

Jim
My garage tells you what has been done to this ZHP

Finally! Someone else takes the plunge.

I was getting tired of fielding questions when all I have is a lump in the corner of my shop for 2 years without any use.

soneracar 11-29-2012 06:34 AM

If you can find it at dealer cost it is around 1500-1800 to rebuild. Mine was $1550 on my 323ci.

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PEI330Ci 11-29-2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by soneracar (Post 14936538)
If you can find it at dealer cost it is around 1500-1800 to rebuild. Mine was $1550 on my 323ci.

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In my case, I needed something to handle more power....a lot more power.

I think the OP's issue is software related.

Jim Murphy 11-29-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TrippinBimmer (Post 14935979)
5 Grand

Yep, the old charge card took a big hit. Back to selling more stuff to pay it off.

Jim

A4RingedONE8T 11-29-2012 02:37 PM

Level 10 can build the auto's for up to 750tq

http://www.levelten.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=29

-Shawn-

A4RingedONE8T 11-29-2012 02:42 PM

I am just getting started with a build using a Level 10 tranny, upgraded with every option they have. You can follow the results in the thread here ... http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=958415


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