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Bimmer_Addict 12-02-2012 01:17 AM

CAB's failure after 10k miles ECS
 
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Hello fellow fanatics, I purchased these control arm bushings from ECS along with other parts, however these ones as I looked at them when the car was lifted I found the red part sticking out of the bracket. I also hear cracking noises at turns as if I had a messed up axle on a FWD car. Has any one experience this before with this kind of CABS, do I need to buy new ones now or just replace the internal parts with new set from tuner motor sports, is it risky like it would totally come out and I loose control of my car. Any help would be appreciated guys. ECS I would like to hear from you on what's the warranty on this product. I'd ont track my car and I don't drive aggressively.

Bimmer_Addict 12-02-2012 01:48 AM

If I buy this set http://store.bimmerworld.com/powerfl...hing-p281.aspx, can I press it in the stock housing I took off when I replaced by the above mentioned CABS.

Bimmer_Addict 12-02-2012 04:21 PM

Can any one shed some light on a fellow fanatic?

WDE46 12-02-2012 04:24 PM

You can press out the old bushings and reuse the housing. It is very difficult though and you'll need a press or special tool. You can get powerflex prepressed into the housings for $150. I bought mine from Bimmerworld too and I have no problems. (Powerflex).

You know it is possible to install the bushing too far onto the control arm. There is a certain distance you are supposed to slide them on (at least for the OEM rubber ones). I simply slid mine on so that only a small bit of the control arm stuck out the back.

auto180sx 12-02-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer_Addict (Post 14945125)
Can any one shed some light on a fellow fanatic?

Simmer down man, its a Sunday, give it time and people will respond.


To answer your question; yes and you'll need a hydraulic press to do it. I went with the Rogue Engineering bushings for my FCABs and love them but anything is better then broken ones. I hear good things about Powerflex too.

Good luck and get them replaced ASAP

Megalocnus 12-02-2012 08:04 PM

Just to clarify since you have a 323i, which type of control arms have you got? #5 or #6?
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/s/f/243.png
The bushings you bought look like they are made for the new type of control arms (#6)

Mango 12-02-2012 10:44 PM

hopefully you didn't stick 66mm bushings on 60mm arms. i dont think the fitment is the same. either way, i'd probably not trust generic poly stuff. if you must go poly, choose a name brand. though honesty id recommend meyle hd

yonmoor 12-02-2012 11:36 PM

Just get the Meyle HDs.

Bimmer_Addict 12-02-2012 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalocnus (Post 14945548)
Just to clarify since you have a 323i, which type of control arms have you got? #5 or #6?
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/s/f/243.png
The bushings you bought look like they are made for the new type of control arms (#6)

I don't know which one i have , and when I changed them I took the old cabs completely out n replaced them with the on in the first post, red n black, I guess I'll do the power flex ones since I have a stock housing, ill measure before I order. Thanks for all who replied though with their inputs, I appreciate it

silyb0y 12-03-2012 12:01 AM

Meyle parts are the worst car parts Ive seen in my life. Their hydrobearings dont even have fluid inside. Therefor -> no hydrobearings. Just buy the original parts made by Lemförder. They are the best you can get.

DHK 12-03-2012 01:59 AM

I have heard about lots of problems with the poly ones. I have also heard a lot of people who swear by them.
The Meyle ones are sort of similar, lot of people swear by them but you also hear a lot of people complaining about defective ones.

I rarely if ever have seen anyone complain about the Lemforder ones though, they may not be the best but they are certainly the most consistent.

WDE46 12-03-2012 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by silyb0y (Post 14946048)
Meyle parts are the worst car parts Ive seen in my life. Their hydrobearings dont even have fluid inside. Therefor -> no hydrobearings. Just buy the original parts made by Lemförder. They are the best you can get.

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Originally Posted by DHK (Post 14946308)
I have heard about lots of problems with the poly ones. I have also heard a lot of people who swear by them.
The Meyle ones are sort of similar, lot of people swear by them but you also hear a lot of people complaining about defective ones.

I rarely if ever have seen anyone complain about the Lemforder ones though, they may not be the best but they are certainly the most consistent.

If Lemforder is OEM, then everyone complains about Lemforder. They are destroyed after less than 50,000 miles.

I think most people complaining about the Meyle HD ones do not install them properly. They must be slid on the control arm a certain distance. If you put them on too far, they will get ripped out. You also have to wait for your lube to dry up (used to slide them on) before driving.

Poly bushings are pretty much fool proof. I have Powerflex and they have been great so far after several thousand miles.

vandyboy 12-03-2012 07:57 AM

I think most people complaining about the Meyle HD ones do not install them properly. They must be slid on the control arm a certain distance. If you put them on too far, they will get ripped out. You also have to wait for your lube to dry up (used to slide them on) before driving.

Poly bushings are pretty much fool proof. I have Powerflex and they have been great so far after several thousand miles.[/QUOTE]

I think you are right. It is possible to make mistakes installing any CAB, poly or conventional. I put some Meyle HD CAB on my car and absolutely love them. The front end is tight again. Best $79.00 I've spent in a long time.

yonmoor 12-03-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by silyb0y (Post 14946048)
Just buy the original parts made by Lemförder. They are the best you can get.

They are pieces of ****.

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Originally Posted by DHK (Post 14946308)
they may not be the best but they are certainly the most consistent.

If by consistent you mean guaranteed to fail in <45,000 miles, then yes, they are consistent.

Solidjake 12-03-2012 09:15 AM

Just get Meyle or Lemforder and call it a day.

ECSTuning 12-04-2012 11:08 AM

Those are the MTC Polyurethane Front Control Arm bushings (LINK), they carry a one year warranty from time of purchase. Shoot an email to customerservice@ecstuning.com and they'll get you taken care of.

Did you grease the poly bushings prior to install? If not they do have tendency to make noise under all driving conditions.

ThatGuy_JZ 12-05-2012 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by yonmoor (Post 14945985)
Just get the Meyle HDs.

Yup - 45k miles still doing great in mine

daves325in2012 12-05-2012 08:01 AM

Another Meyle HD supporter here. Very tight, I order the whole control arm with new ball joints and FCAB and outer joint, and I absolutely love them

w/ 15k on them they still feel new!

Meyle or OE are your only choices here unless you want to do Powerflex, but unless you have the budget for a better set of everything else, why splurge for a high-end part when you just ordered MTC brand? Cheap performance and longevity = Meyle HD IMO

subieworx 12-05-2012 08:08 AM

I refuse to install or sell that kind of bushing anymore. Seen way too many failures of that type from many different brands.

Whiteline has some that are awesome. They are stiff and made from polyurethane, but are incredibly long lasting. They require at least a vise for installation, but not a press (although they go in easier with a press).

Bimmer_Addict 12-05-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ECSTuning (Post 14950163)
Those are the MTC Polyurethane Front Control Arm bushings (LINK), they carry a one year warranty from time of purchase. Shoot an email to customerservice@ecstuning.com and they'll get you taken care of.

Did you grease the poly bushings prior to install? If not they do have attendance to make noise under all driving conditions.

Thanks for chiming in, I did grease them and they were fine when first installed until recently they start doing that cracking noise like I mentioned a broken FWD axle noise and sticking out from the black part. too bad I’m past the year but I will post a pic of how they look now may be someone will tell me what should be done, as of now I ordered some powerflex and I will press them in the old OEM housing I got..


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