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pancakes 12-12-2012 07:37 PM

Lee Doren Critique: "Tax the Rich" (vid shown in classrooms of rich pissing on poor)
 
soo many of you may have heard of the animated cartoon being shown in some classrooms that portrays the rich peeing on the poor....

a pretty good critique of the whole vid here by one of my fav libertarian, Lee Doren.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f6FZGjF8OA

bimmerfan08 12-12-2012 08:27 PM

Hmm, interested in what others will say

Iceman00 12-13-2012 04:28 PM

Didn't watch, and don't plan on it. I'll vote in my best interest, even if that means raising taxes on those who are wealthier than me.

Lair 12-13-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman00 (Post 14977320)
Didn't watch, and don't plan on it. I'll vote in my best interest, even if that means raising taxes on those who are wealthier than me.

This.

Fvck Lee Doren.

bimmerfan08 12-13-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman00 (Post 14977320)
Didn't watch, and don't plan on it. I'll vote in my best interest, even if that means raising taxes on those who are wealthier than me.

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Originally Posted by Lair (Post 14977338)
This.

Fvck Lee Doren.

Curious. Do you guys actually believe it is better to tax the wealthy and redistribute the wealth, or are you envious of their acquired wealth?

Lair 12-13-2012 04:51 PM

Did you believe it was approproate when the Bush administration presided over the largest shift of wealth (from the middle class to the 1%) in this nation's history?

bimmerfan08 12-13-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lair (Post 14977416)
Did you believe it was approproate when the Bush administration presided over the largest shift of wealth (from the middle class to the 1%) in this nation's history?

I'm gonna need some sources for that...

Lair 12-13-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 (Post 14977452)
I'm gonna need some sources for that...

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/...-middle-class/

Act of God 12-14-2012 09:56 AM

wow this video is staggeringly ignorant and full of actual lies.

Iceman00 12-14-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 (Post 14977407)
Curious. Do you guys actually believe it is better to tax the wealthy and redistribute the wealth, or are you envious of their acquired wealth?

No, I don't care if someone has more money than me, though I wouldn't mind being in that position. Why should I NOT vote in my best interest, especially when it could be argued what is best for me, is best for the majority?

5ynd1cat3 12-14-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman00 (Post 14979379)
No, I don't care if someone has more money than me, though I wouldn't mind being in that position. Why should I NOT vote in my best interest, especially when it could be argued what is best for me, is best for the majority?

Just curious....do you actually pay income tax?

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bimmerfan08 12-14-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 5ynd1cat3 (Post 14979430)
Just curious....do you actually pay income tax?

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Lol

evolved 12-14-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 (Post 14977407)
Curious. Do you guys actually believe it is better to tax the wealthy and redistribute the wealth, or are you envious of their acquired wealth?


I think, at this point, the most logical tax system is a progressive system. Taxes should eventually go up on everyone, but the timing of that is what's tricky.

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Originally Posted by 5ynd1cat3 (Post 14979430)
Just curious....do you actually pay income tax?

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Why would it matter if he did or didn't?

Act of God 12-14-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by evolved (Post 14979520)
I think, at this point, the most logical tax system is a progressive system. Taxes should eventually go up on everyone, but the timing of that is what's tricky.

IIRC we have the most progressive taxes in the world.

evolved 12-14-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Act of God (Post 14979553)
IIRC we have the most progressive taxes in the world.

That wouldn't surprise me.

Act of God 12-14-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by evolved (Post 14979563)
That wouldn't surprise me.

I think that is what frustrates people. Our rich pay more than everyone else's rich, our poor pay less than everyone else's poor. Our corporate rates are among the highest. Our capital gains rates are globally high (Germany has 0%).

Yet, according to some it is never ever enough. There is no end game where people will say "ok everyone is paying enough", there will always be demands for more more more. Remember, back in the Clinton days it was a millionaire tax. Not even 20 years later we're down to 250k. Guess what's next? On top of that, 250k isn't even close to what it was when Clinton was President.

On top of that, spending just keeps outpacing revenue like Usain Bolt racing Stephen Hawking

casino is no lie 12-14-2012 12:18 PM

The rich should be taxed at 99% :eeps:

Act of God 12-14-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by casino is no lie (Post 14979686)
The rich should be taxed at 99% :eeps:

Why even give them 1%? Might as well just chain them to their desks and use them up like batteries!

casino is no lie 12-14-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Act of God (Post 14979688)
Why even give them 1%? Might as well just chain them to their desks and use them up like batteries!

I'm okay with that.

Iceman00 12-14-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Act of God (Post 14979620)
I think that is what frustrates people. Our rich pay more than everyone else's rich, our poor pay less than everyone else's poor. Our corporate rates are among the highest. Our capital gains rates are globally high (Germany has 0%).
Yet, according to some it is never ever enough. There is no end game where people will say "ok everyone is paying enough", there will always be demands for more more more. Remember, back in the Clinton days it was a millionaire tax. Not even 20 years later we're down to 250k. Guess what's next? On top of that, 250k isn't even close to what it was when Clinton was President.

On top of that, spending just keeps outpacing revenue like Usain Bolt racing Stephen Hawking

I don't believe that at all. I want to know what our effective rates are in comparison to other countries.


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