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wrighterjw10 12-22-2012 09:31 PM

USP vs P226
 
Just looking for pros and cons.

Anyone have experience with both?

Not set on 9mm or 40, but willing to listen to that as well.

Adam@Euro-Spec 12-22-2012 09:38 PM

Both great guns depends which fits you better imo. I chose the p226 elite dark. I'll get a usp tactical one day as well

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david05111 12-22-2012 10:47 PM

I have a 226 in 9mm and a USP-Compact Tactical in .45. Both great guns. if you have more specific questions, I can try and help

wrighterjw10 12-22-2012 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david05111 (Post 15002319)
I have a 226 in 9mm and a USP-Compact Tactical in .45. Both great guns. if you have more specific questions, I can try and help

Awesome, can u just give some insight on pros/cons?

I really like both, and both fit my hands well. I wasn't considering 45, rather 40 at the most for mostly target. Thanks in advance!

Reedo302 12-22-2012 11:00 PM

USP
Pro:
-combat proven reliability
-polymer frame is lighter
-external safety is in "1911 style" design, so easy to manipulate
-excellent trigger

Con:
-proprietary rail does not accept conventional picatinny weaponlights, so you need an adapter (SureFire makes one)
-Very expensive
-Large grip
-HK. Because you suck. And we hate you. (HK is known to have very poor customer support, and getting replacement parts is difficult)


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Sig P226

Pro:
-combat proven reliability
-metal frame is very strong
-no external safety, which aids simplistic/minimalist design
-hammer decock lever for safe decocking
-Some models have a picatinny style rail, which accepts conventional weaponlights

Cons:
-metal frame is heavier, which is not always conducive to CCW
-long trigger pull is a problem for women and small-handed shooters
-expensive
-Recent complaints with Sig rifles having poor build quality and reliability. Unknown if this is going to affect pistols (so far it does not appear to)

david05111 12-22-2012 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighterjw10 (Post 15002345)
Awesome, can u just give some insight on pros/cons?

I really like both, and both fit my hands well. I wasn't considering 45, rather 40 at the most for mostly target. Thanks in advance!

I echo much of what Reedo said. My experience is slightly different that what you're looking for I think. The 226 is a considerably larger weapon than the USP-CT, but that's because my USP is not full size. They're not really in the same category.

If for target, you're going to want a larger weapon for the longer barrel. If I remember correctly, the sights on USPs are adjustable (at least on the Tactical and the match) while those on the 226 are not adjustable as far as I am aware, so that might be a big consideration.

wrighterjw10 12-22-2012 11:51 PM

thanks to you both. i really like the p226 with the rail. i'll have to keep researching, but i'm leaning towards the sig.

Reedo302 12-23-2012 12:10 AM

I would also recommend looking at an HK P30 or P30L, or HK45.

ryanwhite74115 12-23-2012 02:17 PM

I love my new Sig p229 :eeps:

GlockMan 12-23-2012 03:02 PM

I love my HK45

Look at the Compact version.

dfjaws 12-23-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reedo302 (Post 15002472)
I would also recommend looking at an HK P30 or P30L, or HK45.

:werd:

I have a P30 and prefer it to a Sig 226. I don't own a Sig 226 but I have used one extensively. I prefer the lighter frame of the P30 and the more comfortable grip (among a few other minor details). Parts are easy to get via internet (hkparts.net) but getting replacements directly from HK is next to impossible.

You definitely suck, and they definitely hate you, haha.

Nickvjr 12-23-2012 05:07 PM

8 years working land & water based patrol in So Cal with my then department issued HK USP 45 and I had no complaints!

What a great sidearm to have on patrol. Sure there are some pros & cons to every firearm but that USP 45 felt great! Smooth double action (on first round) & single action thereafter, simple safety & de-cocker. Also very easy to maintain I a salt water environment as most metal frame firearms rusted over time.

Any who when I left my old department I had to leave my USP 45 behind. And although my new department made me switch to a Glock 21 (also a very good firearm) I still miss the days of my USP 45. That was one firearm I don't think I will ever forget!

2000_328CI 12-23-2012 05:42 PM

I want a Walther PPS

GasKing 12-23-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000_328CI (Post 15003430)
I want a Walther PPS

I never liked the pps, I feel like the only reason people even own the pps is because of 007.

Adam@Euro-Spec 12-23-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GasKing (Post 15003466)
I never liked the pps, I feel like the only reason people even own the pps is because of 007.

Exact reason why chase wants one :eeps:

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ryanwhite74115 12-23-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GasKing (Post 15003466)
I never liked the pps, I feel like the only reason people even own the pps is because of 007.

I thought 007 used a PPK...

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carcus 12-23-2012 07:17 PM

I have a HK P30L 9mm and Sig P226 TacOps 9mm 20 round

Personally, I think the HK is a better shooter but the P226 TacOps is my SHTF handgun..if there is such a thing besides my HK Mark 23. That is by far, the most awesome shooting semi auto handgun I have ever owned.

I love the weight of the P226, I love the feel and accuracy of the HK P30L. Both are favorites of mine so win win.

wrighterjw10 12-23-2012 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcus (Post 15003525)
I have a HK P30L 9mm and Sig P226 TacOps 9mm 20 round

Personally, I think the HK is a better shooter but the P226 TacOps is my SHTF handgun..if there is such a thing besides my HK Mark 23. That is by far, the most awesome shooting semi auto handgun I have ever owned.

I love the weight of the P226, I love the feel and accuracy of the HK P30L. Both are favorites of mine so win win.

i also love the weight of the p226, i like a heavier handgun.

ShootyzGruve 12-24-2012 08:08 AM

I've always wanted a USP. Finally some variants have become MA compliant but I think it's only the 40cal. I'd really rather have the 9 if only for the cheaper ammo costs.

Noreaster33 12-24-2012 08:23 AM

Go with a glock


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