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pancakes 01-05-2013 07:37 PM

interesting assertion - can't be fiscally conservative and socially liberal
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9tXTd50BRA

bimmerfan08 01-05-2013 09:19 PM

Then wtf am I...;)

Lair 01-05-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 (Post 15035032)
Then wtf am I...;)


Ditto.

NFRs2000nyc 01-06-2013 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 (Post 15035032)
Then wtf am I...;)

Full of sh!t if you don't agree. If you think we need government programs, welfare, this that and the other, then you can't possibly be fiscally conservative since the money comes from the same government piggy bank. You are either a liberal or a fiscal conservative, you can't have it both ways.

NFRs2000nyc 01-06-2013 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lair (Post 15035140)
Ditto.

Yea, and I just split the atom. The guy who advocates for unions is fiscally conservative.

bimmerfan08 01-06-2013 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NFRs2000nyc (Post 15035299)
Full of sh!t if you don't agree. If you think we need government programs, welfare, this that and the other, then you can't possibly be fiscally conservative since the money comes from the same government piggy bank. You are either a liberal or a fiscal conservative, you can't have it both ways.

I don't like most social programs. I do want social rights.

bimmerfan08 01-06-2013 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NFRs2000nyc (Post 15035299)
Full of sh!t if you don't agree. If you think we need government programs, welfare, this that and the other, then you can't possibly be fiscally conservative since the money comes from the same government piggy bank. You are either a liberal or a fiscal conservative, you can't have it both ways.

I don't like most social programs. I do want equal social rights.

NFRs2000nyc 01-06-2013 08:18 AM

For example? What social rights?

mistrzmiasta 01-06-2013 08:47 AM

free cell phones.

NOVAbimmer 01-06-2013 09:01 AM

I believe government should cut spending. I believe gays and women are people.

NOVAbimmer 01-06-2013 09:02 AM

Just looking at the title, it sounds like a republican who's sick of seeing other republicans with that view point vote for a non-republican because of social views.

Silver_Surfer 01-06-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NOVAbimmer (Post 15035578)
I believe government should cut spending. I believe gays and women are people.

Exactly! And I don't care who gets an abortion, as long as I don't have to pay for it.

NFRs2000nyc 01-06-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver_Surfer (Post 15035581)
Exactly! And I don't care who gets an abortion, as long as I don't have to pay for it.

Thats the point of his video. Once you legalize abortion to the level liberals want, the next step is having it paid for. Medical weed becomes a "prescription drug" and Sandra Fluke needs it paid for. Everything the liberals want costs money. Now, most of the "social rights" ie gay marriage, abortion, drugs, etc I am for, but I am NOT for their fallout, and there lies the problem.

If you don't agree with the video, you are just delusional.

evolved 01-06-2013 09:26 AM

lol @ the idea that it's not possible to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Maybe if you think in black and white or nothing but extremes, but we live in the gray area, not black and white.

mistrzmiasta 01-06-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by evolved (Post 15035607)
lol @ the idea that it's not possible to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Maybe if you think in black and white or nothing but extremes, but we live in the gray area, not black and white.

http://i.imgflip.com/1bim.jpg

evolved 01-06-2013 09:42 AM

yet another solid contribution.

Act of God 01-06-2013 10:13 AM

I think what he meant to say that it is very difficult to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal in practice, not theory. I don't see why wanting drugs or abortions legal = agreeing to provide them for free.

VaderDave 01-06-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NFRs2000nyc (Post 15035595)
Thats the point of his video. Once you legalize abortion to the level liberals want, the next step is having it paid for. Medical weed becomes a "prescription drug" and Sandra Fluke needs it paid for. Everything the liberals want costs money. Now, most of the "social rights" ie gay marriage, abortion, drugs, etc I am for, but I am NOT for their fallout, and there lies the problem.

If you don't agree with the video, you are just delusional.

Classic slippery slope argument. The world is full of people who are happy to have things one way but against taking that next step. Few people I know think about conservatism and liberalism in Manichean terms.

mistrzmiasta 01-06-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by evolved (Post 15035632)
yet another solid contribution.

yours was much better. "lol@_______ because we live in a gray area." :rofl:

evolved 01-06-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mistrzmiasta (Post 15035686)
yours was much better. "lol@_______ because we live in a gray area." :rofl:

Your original post was better.


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