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PAT @ RS WORX 01-09-2013 12:18 PM

Redline Speed Worx Presents: Saad Racing / Pro EFI Stage 3 Build
 
Redline Speed Worx is proud to present the build thread of our shop E46 M3.

We have been in the the "european repair & performance" community for a number of years now. You may already be familiar with our work in the Audi, VW, Mercedes Benz & Porsche markets and we please invite you to visit our website (www.RedlineSpeedWorx.com), our Flickr Account, as well as our Facebook Page which we do update daily ! We pride ourselves on high end repair work, and do specialize in engine / transmission rebuilds as well as aftermarket turbocharger systems.

If you AREN'T familiar with our work take a moment to check out our "SHOP LIFE" thread here on e46fanatics ! It displays some of the work we have completed over the past few months !

We have FINALLY decided it was time to build a BIG power BMW, and what better platform than that of the E46 M3.

Our Shop M3 will be receiving a complete Saad Racing Stage 3 Turbocharger system. The entire vehicle is currently being overhauled from a complete engine rebuild, drivetrain upgrades, braking system upgrades, suspension overhaul as well as the installation of a complete Pro EFI engine management system.

The first post of this thread will outline the components currently going into the vehicle from Saad Racing as well as Pro EFI.

Precision Turbocharger 6766

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8071/8...04d9816d_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Turbo_4 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

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Saad_E46_M3_Turbo_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8...ecceb14a_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Turbo_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


Silicone Hose Kit

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8515/8...4a1fd9f9_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Silicone_Couplers_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


Pro EFI Engine Management System

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8214/8...ce09ebf6_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_PROEFI_1 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8074/8...054863a9_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_PROEFI_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8053/8...47b43aac_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_PROEFI_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8...03df66fb_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_PROEFI_4 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


Saad Racing Exhaust Manifold. Currently being Ceramic Coated

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8336/8...2656d302_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Mainfold_1 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8088/8...e5f1e35e_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Mainfold_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

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Saad_E46_M3_Mainfold_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

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Saad_E46_M3_Mainfold_5 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8...3643b4aa_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Mainfold_6 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


Saad Racing Intake Manifold. Currently being Thermal Coated

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8...b6d0f1be_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Intake_Manifold_1 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8236/8...026fd72a_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Intake_Manifold_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8051/8...9fd76be3_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Intake_Manifold_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/8...ca04393c_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Intake_Manifold_5 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


Saad Racing / Pro EFI Upgraded Ignition System

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8468/8...1a784713_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Ignition_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8463/8...1d60d26b_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Ignition_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8086/8...a2759b5d_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Ignition_1 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


Saad Racing Upgraded Fueling System Fully E85 Compatible.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8076/8...35c0ebc7_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Fueling_1 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8...b4bacd24_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Fueling_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

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Saad_E46_M3_Fueling_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8077/8...17b49575_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Fueling_4 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8467/8...bdc297cf_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Fueling_5 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8045/8...34d1fea0_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Fueling_6 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8353/8...92ec5327_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Fueling_7 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


Saad Racing Front Mount Intercooler

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8508/8...1883b751_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_FMIC_1 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8218/8...0a28906f_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_FMIC_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8472/8...440fa9f6_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_FMIC_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8192/8...8a0116c6_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_FMIC_Piping_1 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8...01ab6148_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_FMIC_Piping_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8...09143d4c_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_FMIC_Piping_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

PAT @ RS WORX 01-09-2013 12:18 PM

Saad Racing 3.5" Downpipe Assembly w/ WG Recirculation

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8515/8...84c901fc_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Downpipe_1 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8097/8...1e15395c_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Downpipe_2 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8222/8...20a9ed87_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Downpipe_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8192/8...8bea4838_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Downpipe_4 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


Saad Racing Oil Res

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8505/8...3431972d_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Engine_Components_3 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8471/8...3fab8f05_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Engine_Components_4 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


Super High Power Neon GREEN Air Filter !

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8184/8...1aa613a9_z.jpg
Saad_E46_M3_Air_Filter_1 by Redline Speed Worx, on Flickr


More to come, stay tuned . . . :pimpin:

powerfreak1 01-09-2013 06:14 PM

This seems awesome!! Very interested in this build

I have a question. I have been a lurk trying to learn about all these turbo systems. Love HPF, am waiting to hear more info on Maximum PSI, but really am interested in the SAAD racing turbo. Charlie (M5chas)'s M3 was a monster! The only thing I cannot find is pricing on SAAD racing kits, and the stages they have with power output?

I am on the east coast so having all these shops appear in NJ is only making me want to pull the trigger faster.

Sorry if this jacked your thread a little bit, Good luck with the build!

JR @ RS WORX 01-09-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfreak1 (Post 15046187)
This seems awesome!! Very interested in this build

I have a question. I have been a lurk trying to learn about all these turbo systems. Love HPF, am waiting to hear more info on Maximum PSI, but really am interested in the SAAD racing turbo. Charlie (M5chas)'s M3 was a monster! The only thing I cannot find is pricing on SAAD racing kits, and the stages they have with power output?

I am on the east coast so having all these shops appear in NJ is only making me want to pull the trigger faster.

Sorry if this jacked your thread a little bit, Good luck with the build!

No worries, Email us at Info@redlinespeedworx.com or call us at 908 223 7477 and we can provide you with all of the pricing

giofrem 01-10-2013 10:46 AM

Just buy an HPF kit instead of copying it.

Think0rz 01-10-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giofrem (Post 15048124)
Just buy an HPF kit instead of copying it.

Where/who is trying to copy the HPF kit? :loco:

TrippinBimmer 01-10-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giofrem (Post 15048124)
Just buy an HPF kit instead of copying it.

Far from Copying....

Cruzer03 01-10-2013 01:24 PM

Interesting...

str8dum1 01-10-2013 03:00 PM

only 500hour run time on those Bosch 044s with E85. dont think thats fully E85 compatible.

http://www.bosch-motorsport.de/en-US...2776426379.pdf

JR @ RS WORX 01-10-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by str8dum1 (Post 15048989)
only 500hour run time on those Bosch 044s with E85. dont think thats fully E85 compatible.

http://www.bosch-motorsport.de/en-US...2776426379.pdf

Yes they are E85 compatible

The pumps are staged, 1st pump comes on at 3500 RPM and the second at 4500 RPM.

Whats nice is that the stock pump is used at all times so there is no extra burden on the 044's

str8dum1 01-10-2013 03:23 PM

I was just pointing out that your wording is misleading. Nothing is fully compatible if it has a limited lifespan as stated by the manufacturer. Plenty of 044 failures on E85.

Saad has put together a great kit, but changing the pumps to fuelab or walbro 416s which are 100% E85 compatible with no time limitations would be a prudent move for cars planning on flex fuel. For the extreme cost of these kits, and pumps now designed for E85, doesnt make sense to cut that corner.

FragNasty 01-10-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by str8dum1 (Post 15048989)
only 500hour run time on those Bosch 044s with E85. dont think thats fully E85 compatible.

http://www.bosch-motorsport.de/en-US...2776426379.pdf

The link you posted does include a 500 hour run-time limit in the installation notes. The exact wording is: "With E26/E85 or Diesel fuel run-time max. 500 h"

That makes me think Bosche expects that it would normally fail sooner.

Seems like the pump only makes sense for temporary uses like testing or tuning an E85 setup.

That reads like incompatible to me too. Good catch.

JR @ RS WORX 01-10-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FragNasty (Post 15049317)
The link you posted does include a 500 hour run-time limit in the installation notes. The exact wording is: "With E26/E85 or Diesel fuel run-time max. 500 h"

That makes me think Bosche expects that it would normally fail sooner.

Seems like the pump only makes sense for temporary uses like testing or tuning an E85 setup.

That reads like incompatible to me too. Good catch.

These pumps have ran on some of SAAD's builds that run E85 for over 15,000 miles.

SlideFox 01-10-2013 06:22 PM

Nice!!

BaDiNfLuEnCe 01-10-2013 10:05 PM

Kind of off topic.. But where can we find out updates about pro efi.. Was hoping they eventually be available for the e92 me.... I also was thinking of adding pro efi to my max psi kit depending on what fueling option become available

MKampa 01-10-2013 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by str8dum1 (Post 15048989)
only 500hour run time on those Bosch 044s with E85. dont think thats fully E85 compatible.

http://www.bosch-motorsport.de/en-US...2776426379.pdf

Lol, there are tons of cars running Bosch 044 pumps with straight E85 for several years and thousands of miles with no issue. I have yet to see a failed Bosch 044. I know Saad has them on Lamborghini's, GTR's, Viper's, and M3's all working flawlessly!

MKampa 01-10-2013 10:31 PM

On a side note, AMAZING kit! Can't wait to see the final build and all the POWER!! Thats a very unique kit with tons of detail! I love how the Intake plenum is made of all billet parts instead of all the shitty cast manifolds! That header looks amazing with all 6 runners merging directly in the flange! Should flow Great!

JR @ RS WORX 01-10-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by str8dum1 (Post 15049079)
I was just pointing out that your wording is misleading. Nothing is fully compatible if it has a limited lifespan as stated by the manufacturer. Plenty of 044 failures on E85.

Saad has put together a great kit, but changing the pumps to fuelab or walbro 416s which are 100% E85 compatible with no time limitations would be a prudent move for cars planning on flex fuel. For the extreme cost of these kits, and pumps now designed for E85, doesnt make sense to cut that corner.

I also want to add that there is 2 parameters for the fuel pumps. rpm and boost. Both of those limits have to be met for them to turn on. The pump may only run for 3 to 10 seconds when racing and may never turn on when daily driving. As a point of reference, you can get 3500 10 second passes before the Bosch estimated failure. Understand also that Bosch is going to underestimate the longevity to stamp warranty issues.

JR @ RS WORX 01-10-2013 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKampa (Post 15050420)
On a side note, AMAZING kit! Can't wait to see the final build and all the POWER!! Thats a very unique kit with tons of detail! I love how the Intake plenum is made of all billet parts instead of all the shitty cast manifolds! That header looks amazing with all 6 runners merging directly in the flange! Should flow Great!

Thanks for the kind words! SAAD has done a great job designing and fabricating this kit.

JR @ RS WORX 01-10-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaDiNfLuEnCe (Post 15050367)
Kind of off topic.. But where can we find out updates about pro efi.. Was hoping they eventually be available for the e92 me.... I also was thinking of adding pro efi to my max psi kit depending on what fueling option become available

I would email Jason at ProEfi. the Max Psi looks awesome! How do you like it?


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