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seregaxyligan 01-24-2013 08:53 AM

Found guilty AKA Lying Cops
 
So I just was found guilty for excessive window tint..:tsk:
So what right, you pay 200 bucks and live your life, the only problem is that when I got pulled over, that cop did not use any devises to check window tints and as he was presenting his case he lied that he wiped a window with a tissue, checked the window and it showed 23% tint. :bs:
So right after I went to see an attorney right there at DMV and he just laughed at me because it's tints and i quote he said "Just get over it".:b:
So now I am sitting here full of rage and disappointment about our court system but still are not willing to let go this case.
Out of principles i wanna pursue that cop, because he gotta have a recording of what happened and it's gonna show that he did not do anything, and so will prove that he lied in court. (I am pretty sure cops can get in a lot of troubles for lying in court)
If anyone had a similar accidents or just knows someone who can help with with this, any information will be greatly appreciated.

Grande D 01-24-2013 09:01 AM

Let it go.

jfoj 01-24-2013 09:03 AM

First post and this question? :facepalm:

The great state and city of NY, you expect different? :banghead:

So where is your proof that your "tints" is legal, did you bring this with you court? You had had pictures of a shop using the correct tool on your car and a picture of the readout along with a written statement from the shop and submitted this as evidence?

Looks like you have a lot of homework if you want to pursue this one.

If you get your local LEO in a bind, I expect it is a small world up there, you will likely get a few more chances to spend more time with him.

Jesse M 01-24-2013 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhp43867 (Post 15091235)
Let it go.

Yup. Not worth it at all. It's just tint. If it's illegal in your state then you have no right to try and get away with it. Take it off, or get a lighter %. And for the $150-$200 it cost to put it back on, you'd end up spending more on your so called attorney there.

Teddy7 01-24-2013 09:04 AM

He told you just get over it because of both the money/time involved in going to court versus paying the $200. If you have a ton of spare time why not pursue it. If what you say happened is what really happened then I could see you potentially having a case (only if clearly portrayed on video). I just know most people will say just pay the ticket and move on. I am leaning towards letting it go as well. If your tint was illegal, you were in the wrong. Yes the cop may have lied (I guess they've never done that before), but you don't have a case in terms of your ticket per-say. Also, all he has to do is stick to what he said if the video isn't clear about whether he did or didn't. Then you wasted time/money for both parties.

Solidjake 01-24-2013 09:05 AM

Follow the rules and you wouldn't have been pulled over in the first place.

jcns 01-24-2013 09:14 AM

so many options for you
Let it go is 1 as everyone mentioned
But I also understand your rage. I think we all do. If you have the time go for it.
1. Was it a hearing or a trial? If it was a hearing, his lying may not be as much trouble as you may want/think it to be in your State. Check your state and city laws(homework #1)
2. Check to see if the cop and/or copcar had a video camera. Homework #2
3. if there was a camera, find out how you can request a copy. Homework #3
4. Were your tints legal? Don't forget that you have to add the tint PLUS 5% for your own windows(this may vary from state to state). This is important, because if you go through all the work of gathering the information from city/state, which ALL COSTS money, and your tints are illegal they will sue you for all costs plus penalties. Check local laws for this.

Another option, if your tints were legal.
If it was a hearing, ask for a trial. If you go this route, be prepared to hire a lawyer. You could represent yourself, but why would you unless you are a lawyer? The city will bring a lawyer if you get a trial.

seregaxyligan 01-24-2013 09:32 AM

I would have paid the fine and let it go if only he wouldn't lie.
It was a hearing, and I will most definitely check if I could obtain a video.
The same way a cop could stop me for doing nothing then create a story and then give me whatever the amount of tickets he feels like giving me that day, and judge would believe him just because he is a cop?
I am willing to spend as much time as i need to prove that i was right.

WDE46 01-24-2013 09:33 AM

Get tint tested. Present evidence that it is legal. Profit. Otherwise shut up.

RayPooley 01-24-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seregaxyligan (Post 15091214)
So I just was found guilty for excessive window tint..:tsk:
So what right, you pay 200 bucks and live your life, the only problem is that when I got pulled over, that cop did not use any devises to check window tints and as he was presenting his case he lied that he wiped a window with a tissue, checked the window and it showed 23% tint. :bs:
So right after I went to see an attorney right there at DMV and he just laughed at me because it's tints and i quote he said "Just get over it".:b:
So now I am sitting here full of rage and disappointment about our court system but still are not willing to let go this case.
Out of principles i wanna pursue that cop, because he gotta have a recording of what happened and it's gonna show that he did not do anything, and so will prove that he lied in court. (I am pretty sure cops can get in a lot of troubles for lying in court)
If anyone had a similar accidents or just knows someone who can help with with this, any information will be greatly appreciated.


The very first thing you need to do is verify whether your tints are or were legal or illegal. If they are still tinted then get your own readings done. If not then get a statement or certificate from your supplier. If they are illegal then let it go. If they are legal then get a receipt for work done and the testimony or certification from the manufacturer as proof of legality. Then by all means challenge it. If you can provide irrefutable evidence that the tints on your vehicle are or were legal then you have the cop by the balls.

seregaxyligan 01-24-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDE46 (Post 15091323)
Get tint tested. Present evidence that it is legal. Profit. Otherwise shut up.

I could not care less if I had 0's installed all around and would have ti stick my head out while driving, he did not fkn check it, and thank you for such a detailed and extensive advise.

seregaxyligan 01-24-2013 09:42 AM

For god's sake, yes my windows were tinted, it's not the point.

wdeerfield 01-24-2013 09:43 AM

tint on any window in ny on a sedan besides the rear windshield is illegal.. doesnt matter if he tested it or not. doesnt matter if you think its light or barely tinted. you have tint on the car, its an equipment violation. end of story. dragging this out is only going to result in you being on their radar that much more.

RayPooley 01-24-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seregaxyligan (Post 15091346)
For god's sake, yes my windows were tinted, it's not the point.

I know what you are saying. Its SOOO annoying when a cop bare faced lies and gets away with it. But you got to get real man. Unless you can demonstrate legality then whether the cop was lying or not you are guilty as charged and that's all they care about. An offence has been commited and the offender punished. All you are going to have is an unsubstantiated allegation against a cop that will be seen as malicious and they will just wipe their ar**s all over it.

HacksawMark 01-24-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seregaxyligan (Post 15091339)
I could not care less if I had 0's installed all around and would have ti stick my head out while driving, he did not fkn check it, and thank you for such a detailed and extensive advise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by seregaxyligan (Post 15091346)
For god's sake, yes my windows were tinted, it's not the point.

You have a case IF your windows are legal. It's a question that you will have to answer in court because that is what you were ticketed for. If the tint is legal, you just proved the LEO lied. If they are not, no one will give a flying-rats-ass if the LEO lied or not and you will lose. Heck, the judge may not even allow you to speak at all if your tint is not legal.

Mango 01-24-2013 10:06 AM

I must've gotten a dozen or so tint tickets in the past. I don't even bother tinting my car any more. Besides, it just looks downright ghetto anyway

adaseb 01-24-2013 10:12 AM

Dude, unless you are retarded or blind you can easily tell whether or not a car has any aftermarket tint, all you need to do is look at it, even in the dark you can tell.

In most places any kind of tint is illegal on the driver and passenger door in front

Pretty much all my friends had tint for years and every couple of years or so some cop has an issue and tickets them, eventually they all got sick of being pulled over and got rid of it. They got tired of having to roll down both windows whenever they saw a cop in sight.

Seriously, just go to a shop, get rid of the tint and then go to court and say you got rid of it and they might give you a break on the ticket.

jfoj 01-24-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdeerfield (Post 15091350)
tint on any window in ny on a sedan besides the rear windshield is illegal.. doesnt matter if he tested it or not. doesnt matter if you think its light or barely tinted. you have tint on the car, its an equipment violation. end of story. dragging this out is only going to result in you being on their radar that much more.

If this is in fact the NY law, the LEO did not even need to check or test the tint as long as he knew the front windows were in fact tinted.

So this may be the end of the story!

A shirt my wife has comes to mind - "Suck it up, cupcake!"

Either remove the front tint or go lighter on the front so they look like they are not tinted as the rears would be slightly darker. I believe many call this "Limo" tint.

Noreaster33 01-24-2013 10:21 AM

Your word against his

seregaxyligan 01-24-2013 10:21 AM

Alright, thanks for the info everyone, as mentioned earlier greatly appreciated.


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