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Lair 01-24-2013 05:36 PM

Paul Ryan used Social Security to go to college
 
In a stunning development that shines a light on Ryan's world class hypocrisy, we have learned that Paul Ryan received SS payments after his father's death, and used those benefits to make a better life for himself.

These are the very benefits that Paul Ryan now wants to gut from SS.

You can't make this stuff up. :rolleyes:

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Paul Ryan already benefited from the Social Security fund he now wants to gut

By Kase Wickman
Wednesday, April 20, 2011 13:49 EST

Rep. Paul Ryan, the GOP’s most outspoken advocate for cutting and privatizing Social Security, has already benefited from Social Security himself, in the form of survivor benefits he received after his father’s untimely death.

From the age of 16, when his 55-year-old father died of a heart attack, until he was 18, Ryan received Social Security payments, which, according to a lengthy profile in WI Magazine, he put away for college. The eventual budget czar attended Miami University in Ohio to earn a B.A. in economics and political science, and landed a congressional internship as a junior.
Ryan’s congressional ascent, all the way to the top spot on the Budget Committee, began with his Social Security-funded college education.


Ryan’s so-called Roadmap for America’s Future budget plan proposed machete-like cuts — most notably to social services like Medicare and Social Security. Paul’s idea was to invest portions of Social Security funds in Wall Street, essentially forcing future recipients to make unsecured investments with with money they’ll later need for retirement — and endangering survivor benefits like the ones he received.

“Ryan credits his father’s death and the care of his grandmother as giving him first-hand experience as to how social service programs work,” WI Magazine wrote, referencing his Alzheimer’s-stricken grandmother, also a beneficiary of the social programs Ryan now opposes, who moved in with Ryan and his mother after his father died.

Without the Social Security benefits he received, Ryan would have had more difficulty attending college, and wouldn’t have become “Wisconsin’s fiscal dreamboat,” as the profile dubs him, or, as Democrats nationwide have painted him, the Enemy Number 1 to seniors and social services.

Ryan’s “Roadmap” for Social Security would drive toward privatization of Social Security, and an “eventual modernization of the retirement age.”

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) wagged his finger at Ryan in a statement in January: “Paul Ryan owes it to the national audience tonight to explain why he wants to privatize Social Security and Medicare.”

Ryan’s Social Security reforms didn’t make it into the final draft of the budget the House passed last week, but as the chairman of the Budget Committee, he’s in a position to push the House to adopt his plan at a later date.


The focus in the social entitlements cut conversation has been on seniors, but “survivor benefits,” like the payments that Ryan and his family received, and help for the disabled, account for about a third of Social Security payments.

Raw Story (http://s.tt/1d9Si)

Rhumb 01-24-2013 05:39 PM

He got his, screw the rest apparently.

Lair 01-24-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhumb (Post 15092936)
He got his, screw the rest apparently.

I know a fox news republican doctor who divorced his pregnant wife while he was in college so she could get ADC and other forms of welfare. He went on to dangle from the gubmint teat himself by joining the National Guard and used federal handouts forever.

Now he's a hardcore welfare hater.

evolved 01-24-2013 05:44 PM

Am I in a time machine?

Wednesday, April 20, 2011 13:49 EST

bimmerfan08 01-24-2013 05:55 PM

Meh could care less. I grew up without my father and put myself through school but I still don't like the broken SS system. I agree that it should go private or at least give citizens the option to choose SS or opt out.

Lair 01-24-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by evolved (Post 15092951)
Am I in a time machine?

Wednesday, April 20, 2011 13:49 EST

Ryan's recent remarks brought it back up.

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Congressman Paul Ryan, the failed vice-presidential candidate and known Ayn Rand admirer, did not appreciate President Obama's inaugural speech.

He told radio host Laura Ingraham that the President willfully misrepresented his long-held belief that American society is increasingly fractured between those who work hard and contribute to society and those who, via safety-net programs, leech off the toil of others.

"No one is suggesting that what we call our earned entitlements — entitlements you pay for, you know, like payroll taxes for Medicare and Social Security — are ... putting you in a 'taker' category," he said on Ingraham's show yesterday.


Lair 01-24-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 (Post 15092998)
Meh could care less. I grew up without my father and put myself through school but I still don't like the broken SS system. I agree that it should go private or at least give citizens the option to choose SS or opt out.

I couldn't care less that Ryan used SS to put himself through school.

What I care about is the rampant hypocrisy he displays by trying to end the very programs that helped him.

bimmerfan08 01-24-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lair (Post 15093041)
I couldn't care less that Ryan used SS to put himself through school.

What I care about is the rampant hypocrisy he displays by trying to end the very programs that helped him.

Well I mean are you surprised when these stories surface? Look at Obama and every other crooked politician in line. They're all the same just representing different parties.

Lair 01-24-2013 06:17 PM

OK.

Point out Obama's attacks on programs that he used as a child.

Green_Shine 01-24-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lair (Post 15093041)
What I care about is the rampant hypocrisy he displays by trying to end the very programs that helped him.

This is old news btw.

This is where Paul Ryan's and others who think logically and can be responsible for their own future think differently than yourself.

Paul Ryan received social security from which his father was force to pay into, yes and rightfully so...Paul also only received SS for two years, until he was an adult.

Lets pretend Paul's father did not have to pay into SS and instead paid that money into something simple like a mutual fund. Upon his fathers passing, Paul would not be limited to only 2 years of payments, he would be entitled to the entire nest egg. He very well could have received more money and even had a tangible number that could be withdrawn at once.

In a nutshell, Paul looked at SS and said we can do better. I agree with him.

sammk 01-24-2013 10:23 PM

The article seems to use some hyperbole but I agree that this amounts to some sort of hypocrisy on Ryan's part.

That apart, I was never impressed with his skills as a so-called budget guru.. I think he's way overrated and there's not much value he can bring to the table in terms of meaningful fiscal reform. My personal take on Ryan.

Lair 01-24-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Green_Shine (Post 15093662)
This is old news btw.

This is where Paul Ryan's and others who think logically and can be responsible for their own future think differently than yourself.

Paul Ryan received social security from which his father was force to pay into, yes and rightfully so...Paul also only received SS for two years, until he was an adult.


So you don't see anything wrong with a guy who uses a program to help himself get ahead, but later calls the people who use the same program "takers", and then has the nerve to try to eliminate the program that helped him get ahead so that other people can't access it?

Act of God 01-25-2013 02:04 AM

Fun story, you actually have no choice whether or not you get SS benefits. My best friend knocked up a junkie online. They had a kid and he ended up taking 100% custody since she's a drug using loser. She recently got SS benefits since our government decided that being a drug user (or "depressed") is a disability.

Since the mother gets SS benefits, even though she has 0% custody, her children get SS benefits. My friend, who is very rich via family, called our government and said he doesn't need their $1,000 a month. They told him "you could be Bill Gates and you're still getting this money".

mkodama 01-25-2013 02:08 AM

That's a bit hypocritical...

kaput 01-25-2013 02:44 AM

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/2/1362599_02bcdea730.jpg

Lair 01-25-2013 08:18 AM

Stop lying. Nobody forces anyone to cash SS checks.

Green_Shine 01-25-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lair (Post 15093912)
So you don't see anything wrong with a guy who uses a program to help himself get ahead, but later calls the people who use the same program "takers", and then has the nerve to try to eliminate the program that helped him get ahead so that other people can't access it?

Did you fvcking not read what I wrote?

'busa 01-25-2013 08:25 AM

In other news, Paul Ryan is still a callous assh0le...

BigDRick323 01-25-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lair (Post 15093912)
So you don't see anything wrong with a guy who uses a program to help himself get ahead, but later calls the people who use the same program "takers", and then has the nerve to try to eliminate the program that helped him get ahead so that other people can't access it?

You've never drank and drove and then later told everyone drinking and driving is wrong, we're all hypocritical. We want to stand for things, but we're still humans that make stupid decisions. Even bearing the hypocrisy, SS needs to be fixed. Obama has had several issues, such as Obama with Reverend Wright. Talks about him being his personal advisor on religion, yet saying he doesn't know the guy and doesn't believe in the things he says. Come on!

badfast 01-25-2013 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDRick323 (Post 15094543)
You've never drank and drove and then later told everyone drinking and driving is wrong, we're all hypocritical. We want to stand for things, but we're still humans that make stupid decisions. Even bearing the hypocrisy, SS needs to be fixed. Obama has had several issues, such as Obama with Reverend Wright. Talks about him being his personal advisor on religion, yet saying he doesn't know the guy and doesn't believe in the things he says. Come on!

Even if true, one can recognize and learn from their own mistakes.

Rev Wright? Has this thread falling into a time warp?


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