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rdsesq 02-21-2013 10:58 AM

Obama admin and Friend of the court breif in the Prop 8 case...
 
The Obama admin has a week left to file a "friend of the court brief" to SCOTUS on the Prop 8 case. While SCOTUS can chose to use or ignore any or all of the brief, if submitted at all. Should the admin file such a brief.

We are hearing from, even from some in the conservative camp, "lets just get this done with and move on." Given the increase in overturns of DOMA at the ballot box and public opinion polls having shift to a a majority in favor of legalizing same-sex unions. A friend of the court brief with why the US DOJ has chosen to not defend challenges to DOMA could hold some weight.

So, in the hypothetical, if this "friend of the court brief were to be the tipping point" would you want the admin to file it, just to get this issue off the national collective political landscape so we could move on to "more important things"?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-w...green&ir=green
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...marriage-case/

Act of God 02-21-2013 12:22 PM

So what the people want only matters when it's stuff you agree with, got it.

bimmerfan08 02-21-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Act of God (Post 15184035)
So what the people want only matters when it's stuff you agree with, got it.

Pretty much.

badfast 02-21-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Act of God (Post 15184035)
So what the people want only matters when it's stuff you agree with, got it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 (Post 15184061)
Pretty much.

How is it different from the **** you guys constantly put up?

The sh1t you guys post only matters when you agree with it or somehow you have exposed someone in some grand scheme.

bimmerfan08 02-21-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badfast (Post 15184071)
How is it different from the **** you guys constantly put up?

The sh1t you guys post only matters when you agree with it or somehow you have exposed someone in some grand scheme.

I'm pretty rational and will agree with someone else's opinion if it seems just, logical, and unbiased.

Act of God 02-21-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badfast (Post 15184071)
How is it different from the **** you guys constantly put up?

The sh1t you guys post only matters when you agree with it or somehow you have exposed someone in some grand scheme.

Prop 8 was a vote, they put it to the people. That's what I am referring to.

rdsesq 02-21-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Act of God (Post 15184035)
So what the people want only matters when it's stuff you agree with, got it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 (Post 15184061)
Pretty much.

I hold that Prop 8 is unconstitutional and as such it doesn't matter what the majority voted for. Nor do I believe that a Friend of the Court brief will matter. The argument for its unconstitutionality is pretty hefty.

I merely posed the question since the item of "we have more important things to deal with, so give the gays marriage and be done with it" has come up, and most often from anti-Obama conservatives.

Act of God 02-21-2013 10:40 PM

I don't care either way, but I've seen liberals tout "what the people support" on many occasions as grounds for doing whatever they want...like gun control.

bimmerfan08 02-21-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Act of God (Post 15185933)
I don't care either way, but I've seen liberals tout "what the people support" on many occasions as grounds for doing whatever they want...like gun control.

Gun control, higher taxation on the rich, better social services for the unwilling, spending more on wasteful and unproductive renewable energy programs, etc.

It's like a lot of extreme liberal ideals are ass backwards and poorly thought out with no regards to efficiency or precise execution. Same can be said for extreme conservative views though. Too much of one thing is never good for you. :rofl:


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