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Old 02-18-2010, 09:57 PM   #11
SKIPPY PB
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Originally Posted by IB RearWheelin View Post
well it depends on what kind of quality do you want your paint to be and how much do you want to spend.

House Of Kolor (the top diggity dog if you want VERY good wet looking paint)
Dupont..(good stuff too)
Emperol (fair)
Starfire (fair)

Very important to decide if you want to either paint in a single stage or 2 stage. Being that you are freshly starting out, I would personally say start with a single stage but it's your choice.

Single stage painting is cheaper...you only spray a base coat onto the project and it will be glossy already but thats all.

2stage on the other hand is for experienced sprayers. You spray a base coat, then turn around and spray your effects such as sparkles, or metallic flakes. You finish off the job with a clear coat...(this is the best part about 2 stage). You can spray as many coats of clear as you want...which will only make the paint appear WETTER and WETTER (glossier). Candy paint is the proper term used in the paint industry.

Yes paint is air dry...you will need to mix this paint with reducer, and hardener. If you don't your paint will come out completely wrong. You have to mix paint especially because you can't spray thick paint straight from a can out of a gun.
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Originally Posted by ///Orient3 View Post
Do a ton of research. I started learning to do bodywork and working in my uncle's body shop when I was eight years old. Some important questions for you...

What are the stats on your air compressor?
What brand of gun are you planning to buy? (these days any decent gun is going to be HVLP, I suggest a higher end Devilbiss or Iwata gun, but we are talking easily upwards of $300)
Do you have somebody to guide you or learn from?

Some comments...

Your compressor and gun choice will be very important.
There are VERY few single stage paints these days.
House of Kolor is owned by Valspar.
PPG has some good lines of affordable paints.
Paints in general are going to have numerous lines of varying quality under one brand.
Two stage paints aren't kandy colors as described previously here, multi stage paints are what was being described.
Two stage paints are a base coat and a clear coat.
Kandy's are typically when a metallic base coat is layed down first, and a transparent top coat is layed down second, achieving a deep, rich color. The final stage is a clear coat.
These days, most pearls are mixed into the paint. It is unusual, even in custom jobs, to see a flake coat or a pearl coat.
While some paints are made specifically to flash faster when aided by heat, paints will cure without it, it just takes a couple of weeks to outgas.
Getting a perfect color match can be tricky. Certain company's formulas to match factory colors can have three or more different formulas...Prime, darker than prime, and lighter than prime, and those don't necessarily ensure a correct match.
Typically, the more white in the mix, the harder it will be to match after years of exposure. (colors like white and silver, etc.)
Yeah man I plan on ordering from eastwood and was looking at the devillbus (sp) line up.

I may possibly be aquiring another e36 in green (yuck!!!!!!) and an e30 within a couple weeks. So im going to have 3 cars which is alot of practice work.

I gotta run so i cant really respond to anything else that was said but thanks.
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