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Old 04-12-2012, 12:23 PM   #5
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Was it a beginner level, or advanced level?
Absolutely a beginner course. I wanted to take a very basic course to get my feet wet and to decide if this was something that I liked and wanted to do more of in the future. My thought was going with a small beginner class to start, I could fumble my way through and find out what works, and what I really need to work on prior to taking any other courses. I don't ever want to be "that guy" in class thta the instructor has to spend his time with because he doesn't know what the hell he is doing.

Which ACOG was it? BAC model? Did he have any issues running a magnified optic versus others running non-magnified? What ranges did you shoot at?
I have no idea which one it was. He was also running a micro red dot on top of it, which he used instead of the ACOG. We shot from 7-30y.

Did you feel like you learned a lot with this round count? Given that it was 10 hours, I can't imagine you spent a lot of time on any one specific skill, but rather put more time into the overall skillset.
I feel that I now have a good grasp of the overall concepts, which was my intent for taking the class. I was hoping to get my feet wet with a one day class, get over any nerves and equipment issues, and prepare myself for full two or three day classes in the future.

Most people wind up adjusting their setup on the first brake. Did you? Were a lot of others?
I adjusted a few minor things like sling length, stock length, etc. I wasn't going to take the time to fuss with the malice clips on the Brokos during a break.

Was it just them telling you what to do, or was it them yelling at you? What kind of students were in the class?
It was a standard walk through prior to a drill. During the drill, the intensity would ratchet up. It was really no different than what you see in any of the instructional videos. The instructor gets on the student to force them to function and problem solve in a stressful environment.

Like what? This is often times an indication of people who don't have their **** together and created a hodge-podge of training. Other times they may just be off of their game.
I got the impression that the second instructor was in training, so it was a matter of miscommunication.

What were some things that were done that you didn't like? There are two types of curriculum that instructors use- A way, and THE way. Did they teach their was as A way, or THE way to do things? Did they explain why they did what they did?
An example; tap/pull/rack. Their way is with the muzzle pointed completely vertical. I have always kept it at about a 45 degree angle facing up, and instead of slamming the bottom of the mag home, I do a push/pull when inserting. Their way is a smack to the bottom, then tug, then rack the charging handle. I guess I thought my way was more efficient, but I'm certainly no expert and it's their class.

What kind of things were you doing to make weight an issue?
Not sure I understand what you mean. I wasn't physically doing anything, but I would like to start to look at the weight of the different parts of the gun along with functionality. For example, I currently have a pretty heavy 12" rail. If I'm going to continue taking classes, it might be time to look at lighter rails.

What did he say when his gun took a dump? Good job lubing your gun. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind believing that lube isn't necessary in an AR. Kinda seems like these guys might have a ways to go in their own development. Even NiB coated bolts need lube. If an instructor had said this to me, I'd be pretty pissed about it. Something like that is basic stuff- makes me wonder about the quality of the instructor that said it.
It was really said in jest, with no ill intent. They were testing out some kind of lubricant and wanted to see how long it would go without cleaning and using only Wolf. I just thought it was great that it died during the class.

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