12-28-2012, 12:29 PM
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Same reality, different time. The people only had muskets, but so did the army.
Originally Posted by Master Po
Why is it so hard for people to understand that the second amendment was written under a very different reality?
At the time, when firearms referred to muskets, all you needed was arming people with enough muskets to effectively counter the government.
This was also emerging from an oppressive foreign government.
In today's reality, if the government wanted to oppress you, they have tanks, laser guided missiles and chemical weapons, to name a very few. None of your fancy schmancy AK-47's will do a dent.
Besides, the government is our own people. Would they really shoot their own brothers and fathers? It's more effective to educate everybody.
For the "purists" that stick to the "it was written by our all wise beyond reproach forefathers" argument, if they were so wise we wouldn't need an amendment to begin with, would we?
Present day, the people should (and do) have the right to own fully automatic arms as well. They are heavily taxed and regulated which needs to change. As far as tanks, missiles, etc. If someone can afford it, absolutely.
Your argument about nuclear, chemical, etc weapons and that the governments military would defeat the citizens is weak.
We did it before and can certainly do it again. It only took 3% of us
If it came to that, plenty of military would side with civilians and refuse to use arms against their own.
And if you look at it from a numbers game... the military doesn't stand a chance in hell in defeating regular citizens. They are out numbered and out gunned
All of this is just "talk" obviously... a well armed country is enough weight to prevent governments from overreaching out of fear. Just like having the most nuclear weapons is enough to scare out a nuclear war from happening. Fvck with the balance of that perceptual scale... and you get what you get
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Last edited by JonJon; 12-28-2012 at 12:33 PM.