thanks the rears are 30 now and rub with the 20x10's. the fronts are +20 at 20x8.5 so I will just go 20x8.5 all around. I have a fender tool, but not I think that it is actually rubbing on the bumper cover, not the 1/4 well.
2002 NSX comptech supercharger
2006 BMW 535XI Wagon blk/blk/blk prem/sport/cold/navi, k&N, med tint, 20" r-505's
07 mdx sport, modded
89 s13 track car