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Old 07-05-2005, 09:34 AM   #1
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After over a year working in my car, I can now say that I have a halfway decent system. I am still tweaking (and I guess will never be 100% done), but I can now enjoy a good SQ system on my way to work and back every day!

My intent was to have a crystal clear SQ system and make it look as stock as possible inside, keep as much trunk space as possible and avoid hacking the car, so that it can be returned to 100% stock if I want to. Below are some pics and descriptions.

I hate installing speakers in doors. Imaging/staging is terrible, and no matter how much work you put into them, you eventually end up with door rattles.


I installed my old trusty Eclipse radio using a cookie cutter kit. I haven't decided on what my final source will be. I am leaning towards the new double-din Eclipse navigation unit. Since my goal is sound quality, I am not sure whether the double-din radio will match my 5303R in sound quality. If I decide to keep this radio, I will make a better trim ring, if I go with the double-DIN, I guess I will be doing a bit of cutting and custom work on the trim.


I built the kick panels using the factory panels as a base. Just had to throw some MDF, resin, fiberglass, body filler, primer, texture, paint and clear coat together to get my Boston Z6's a new home. I originally had the kicks sealed (per Boston's original recommendation) and I had a horrible peak in the midbass (someone else at Boston told me later that they were not designed for sealed applications). I ended up opening the back of the kicks to vent the midbases out to the carpet and had to get an EQ to tame the remaining midbass. Because of the flash, it seems like the colors don't match as well as they actually do.



I initially had my phone next to the radio on a bracket. It looked hideous! Now it is out of sight in the eurotray. Since it has voice activation, I rarely even open the tray.


I have another thread about my V1 floating around, but here's a pic of my final product. I mounted the arrows in the middle, the counter in the bottom right side of the cluster, the V1 is in a CD holder on the visor,and I used the factory HK "subwoofer" button to turn it on and off. The small switch next to the radio is the mute.


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Old 07-05-2005, 09:57 AM   #2
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Wow, great work. Especially integrating the speaker housing into the hood and trunk release. Nice. However, not sure if I'm digging the speakers in the floor space. If it's your daily driver, the housing is gonig to be kicked non-stop. But hey, thats my opinion. Definately nice work though.
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:05 AM   #3
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Wow, great work. Especially integrating the speaker housing into the hood and trunk release. Nice. However, not sure if I'm digging the speakers in the floor space. If it's your daily driver, the housing is gonig to be kicked non-stop. But hey, thats my opinion. Definately nice work though.
Thanks. It is my daily driver, and only my wife and I drive it. I've had kick panels in my last 4 cars, so I am used to them. If someone rides in my car, I warn them before they even get in the car. The clear coat protects the finish, and I can always spot-touch up, if I ever get a scratch. A small price for better sound.
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:41 AM   #4
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Very nice setup. Super clean
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:52 AM   #5
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our trunks look similar, again, very nice job and in good taste.
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:06 PM   #6
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Awsome setup bro! The installs look clean and stock
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I wanted to keep the trunk somewhat simple. I am not really into flashy installs in my own cars, but I didn't want it to be boring either. A little plexi was good enough to accentuate the install. I have to make some kind of grilles (most likely out of plexi) to protect the subs.


An EQX in the factory storage area is hidden when I am not tweaking


Since the amps are very heavy (Sounstream Van Gogh 800.2 for the fronts and 1600.2 for the subs), I had to make my shelf out of 3/4" plexi and support it with 3 plexi pieces bolted from the top of the rear deck to the bottom of the rack.


I didn't want to get carried away with lighting, but I ended up adding some "color" to the install.


Between the two subs, I have a capacitor, ground distribution block and power fusing (all easily accesible from the rear seat). I made a pseudo-BMW logo with two holes for "venting". I did some side-lighting on the logo with LEDs to make it stand out.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:56 AM   #9
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Nice install!

Could I get some more information on how you used the factory HK subwoofer button to operate the V1? I am not installing a V1, but I would like to be able to use the factory HK button to be used as an on/off button for a project I am starting...
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:27 AM   #10
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Nice install!

Could I get some more information on how you used the factory HK subwoofer button to operate the V1? I am not installing a V1, but I would like to be able to use the factory HK button to be used as an on/off button for a project I am starting...
The switch is not a hard wired switch, it is just a logic signal, so it doesn't source enough current to turn anything on (not even a relay). I ended up making a current amplifier.

Here's how I did it: You need to check with a meter to verify, but if memory serves me right, it was a yellow wire (or yellow with another color stripe, maybe black?). I cut the wire (to avoid feedback back into the car) and hooked up an amplifier (made from transistors) to power the V1 up. Depending on what you are powering, you might also need a relay. Keep in mind that the switch is an on/off switch, not a pulse.

If you want, I can give you schematics of the circuit I made (actually a timer/amplifier). I haven't tried, but you could just probably get by with a single transistor. Another option is to buy a pre-built amplifier like the one I made from Select Products ot Accele Electronics, probably for $20 - $30.
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:05 AM   #11
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nice setup - I like it a lot - those kicks are very well done

it's about time you made with the pics
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The switch is not a hard wired switch, it is just a logic signal, so it doesn't source enough current to turn anything on (not even a relay). I ended up making a current amplifier.

Here's how I did it: You need to check with a meter to verify, but if memory serves me right, it was a yellow wire (or yellow with another color stripe, maybe black?). I cut the wire (to avoid feedback back into the car) and hooked up an amplifier (made from transistors) to power the V1 up. Depending on what you are powering, you might also need a relay. Keep in mind that the switch is an on/off switch, not a pulse.

If you want, I can give you schematics of the circuit I made (actually a timer/amplifier). I haven't tried, but you could just probably get by with a single transistor. Another option is to buy a pre-built amplifier like the one I made from Select Products ot Accele Electronics, probably for $20 - $30.
Thanks for the info What I want to use the button for is an on/off switch for my carputer. It could either go directly to the carputer itself, or to the carputer's power supply. I think I'd be better off buying a pre-built but maybe I could get by with the schematic you made. What do you suggest for my application? Thanks again
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Thanks for the info What I want to use the button for is an on/off switch for my carputer. It could either go directly to the carputer itself, or to the carputer's power supply. I think I'd be better off buying a pre-built but maybe I could get by with the schematic you made. What do you suggest for my application? Thanks again
Let me look at it. Most likely you can get by with a transistor and a relay, which is easy to get and cheap. I'll get back to you as soon as I get a chance to look at the notes I have from my install.
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Let me look at it. Most likely you can get by with a transistor and a relay, which is easy to get and cheap. I'll get back to you as soon as I get a chance to look at the notes I have from my install.
Great - thanks a tonne
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How do you like the Van Gogh amps? I haven't used any SS amps since we dropped the line when Donna sold the company.
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Old 12-09-2005, 09:56 AM   #16
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They are very transparent, which is key to me, since I am an audiophile. The power supplies are rock-solid. I've gone through many brands in previous cars/systems, and these are the best amps I have owned. They are not bad for the price either.

Only issue I had with the amps, is the documentation was a bit criptic.
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so how much for one of those racks?
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so how much for one of those racks?
Probably no less than $300 (plexi costs alone are about $100). A lot of work involved (build template, shape/polish plexi, etc)
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Awesome and very clean install..love the fabrication on the kicks ! I was going to put kicks in my last install i use to have them around 6-7 years ago in a E36 coupe but for me was not enough midbass and they got beat up by customers gettin in and out of the car ! But very well executed install big fan of plexi and i gotta say you have made a nice rack there. What is it like for amps heating up as they are so close under the rear shelf ?? Not good ventilation up there and those amps do run very hot ..do the internal fans do the job ? or have you thought of watercooling them ?? Also what is the imgaging like on the kicks ?? as your legs would deflect the sound ?
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Awesome and very clean install..love the fabrication on the kicks ! I was going to put kicks in my last install i use to have them around 6-7 years ago in a E36 coupe but for me was not enough midbass and they got beat up by customers gettin in and out of the car ! But very well executed install big fan of plexi and i gotta say you have made a nice rack there. What is it like for amps heating up as they are so close under the rear shelf ?? Not good ventilation up there and those amps do run very hot ..do the internal fans do the job ? or have you thought of watercooling them ?? Also what is the imgaging like on the kicks ?? as your legs would deflect the sound ?
Never had any heat problems, the amps get plenty of air flow. Imaging is very good. I spent a long time playing with alignment and polarity before I finalized the kick panels.
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