E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > Tuning & Tech > DIY: Do It Yourself

DIY: Do It Yourself
Post here to share or improve your wrench turning skills! All BMW E46 DIY tips, tales, and projects discussed inside. Learn to work on your car and know the right BMW parts you will need!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rating: Thread Rating: 7 votes, 4.86 average. Display Modes
Old 03-17-2006, 03:44 PM   #1
buddy325i
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 182
My Ride: 2002 325i
Safe Jackpoints - Definitive Answer???

Hey guys.

I have searched this site along with other BMW websites, but I am still confused about the correct jacking points to get your entire car up. Every post says something different for both front and rear. Not using the side rubber jack points since that's where the jackstands will go.........

For the front, I know that there is a black rubber for pre-2002, and there's been some debate whether the oval metal piece is the correct jacking point for post-2002. What is correct jacking point for the front?

For the rear, I've heard differential itself, subframe, control arm, etc..........Is there a definitive answer?

Thanks and I hope this thread will give everyone a FINAL answer.
buddy325i is offline   Reply With Quote
Ads by Google

Guests, get your FREE E46Fanatics.com membership to remove this ad.
Old 03-17-2006, 06:30 PM   #2
r0x
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: taking a ride with my best friend.
Posts: 386
My Ride: 2001 325Ci
Use two hydraulic jacks. In the front, put your jacks under the yellow points, and jack-stands under the green points. Don't go near the red ones. Red ones bad. Jack the car up a little bit on each side with each hydraulic jack. When both sides are level and high enough, pop the stands under the frame rails (green). If you use just one jack, the car will slide off the stand when you jack up the other side. Ask me how I know.




In the back, use one jack under the frame in front of the differential. Don't jack up by the differential. Put the stands under the rubber jack-points in the back. I'll try to take pictures of the back tomorrow to make things clearer.

Last edited by r0x; 03-17-2006 at 06:33 PM.
r0x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 01:37 AM   #3
buddy325i
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 182
My Ride: 2002 325i
Rox, I appreciate the pictures. I never considered the areas circled in green, but I will definitely check it out.
buddy325i is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 05:37 AM   #4
r0x
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: taking a ride with my best friend.
Posts: 386
My Ride: 2001 325Ci
Sorry, I was on crack last night. I meant "put the hydraulic jacks on the green points, and lower onto jackstands at the yellow points," which is the opposite of what I said above. I cut a two-by-four into small blocks so the frame rail doesn't get all chewed up by the metal jack. I'll definitely take pictures today.

The green part is the frame rail of the car, and is very strong. It won't bend. The red part is soft, and *will* bend.
r0x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 12:27 PM   #5
Keem
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Tucson
Posts: 359
My Ride: MB e320/Pink Jeep
You can jack by the subframe by the rear differential. But don't touch the diff!
__________________

//Custom SSR GT3 Syle Wheels//12" FI SSD//CarPC//
//Tein Coilovers//5% Tint//Aluminum ACS Pedals//
//2 JBL Amplifiers//CDT Components//ZHP//
Keem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 01:42 PM   #6
ChadE7320
Registered User
 
ChadE7320's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Atlanta GA, Charlotte NC
Posts: 619
My Ride: E90 / ATR-72
Send a message via AIM to ChadE7320
so what about the little ovel thing in the front of the car on an 01 ? i thought that was a center jack pint for the front? if not where is it so you dont have to use two jacks thats a pain in the AS*
__________________
ChadE7320 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 06:34 PM   #7
r0x
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: taking a ride with my best friend.
Posts: 386
My Ride: 2001 325Ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadE7320
so what about the little ovel thing in the front of the car on an 01 ? i thought that was a center jack pint for the front? if not where is it so you dont have to use two jacks thats a pain in the AS*
In my book, bending metal on my car is considered an "error." I've seen this jack point used. I don't recommend it, but ... it's your car! Two jacks is the safe way to do it. And in my book, safer is always better. I guarantee you won't drop a car on yourself more than once.
r0x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 08:01 PM   #8
Canuck328i
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Happyland, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,173
My Ride: 09 Altima Cpe
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadE7320
so what about the little ovel thing in the front of the car on an 01 ? i thought that was a center jack pint for the front? if not where is it so you dont have to use two jacks thats a pain in the AS*
Well I've been using the center jacking point in the front for a long time and have never had a "metal bending" issue - seems a lot easier to me then using two jacks, but whatever works and is safe is the most important thing.

Mark
Canuck328i is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 06:25 PM   #9
r0x
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: taking a ride with my best friend.
Posts: 386
My Ride: 2001 325Ci
I took pictures today. First, our cast of characters:

A set of steel wheel-chocks. I got four of these from Sears for about $20 total.



Two good hydraulic jacks. These cost about $150 each from Sears. Try to get them on sale, if possible. There are more expensive jacks, but I don't think they are any better than these. There are cheaper jacks, and they're definitely worse than these.



And of course, our four jack stands. I don't remember how much these cost. These are rated for three tons. Don't cheap out on your jack stands. On the other hand, I've seen jack stands for like $75 each. What the heck are we lifting here, M1 tanks? The Craftsman ones are fine.



Start by chocking both rear wheels:



My car is kinda low. Yours probably is too. In order to put one jack under the inside frame rail, I need to lift with another jack under the rubber jack point first. Slide the other jack in when there's enough room.

r0x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 06:28 PM   #10
r0x
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: taking a ride with my best friend.
Posts: 386
My Ride: 2001 325Ci
Then start lifting by the inside jack, and take the one that's on the rubber jack point out. Put it on the other side, and there should be enough room to get it under the frame rail by now. Notice the cut-up two-by-fours I use as pads.



Jack each side up a little bit. Two or three pumps at a time, then go to the other side. Repeat until the front of the car is high enough to put your jack stands under the rubber jack points.



Lower the car onto the jack stands. Now we need to lift the back. Again, my car is kinda low, so I lift from the rubber jack pad on one side...



... so I can slide the second jack under the back of the car.



Put this jack under the heavy frame rail in front of the differential. Don't lift by the differential itself. We've all heard the stories about how weak the body is there.

r0x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 06:32 PM   #11
r0x
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: taking a ride with my best friend.
Posts: 386
My Ride: 2001 325Ci
Now lift the car up high enough to get your jackstands under the rear rubber jack points.



Lower the car onto the jackstands, and you're done. Enjoy, be safe, and happy modding.

And uh, this is why using just one jack is bad, lifting from either side:



Note the dents in my side-skirt where the jackstand dug into the bodywork. Nice, right? Try to avoid that. Use two jacks.
r0x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 09:30 AM   #12
miaM7
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Montreal
Posts: 334
My Ride: 04 325i Sp
Hi r0x, is there a chance when lifting from the rear, that the car slides either forward or backwards on the two front jack stands ? the rear jack would have to move when lifting the rear so as such the car doesnt move, right?

Quote:
Originally Posted by r0x View Post
Now lift the car up high enough to get your jackstands under the rear rubber jack points.



Lower the car onto the jackstands, and you're done. Enjoy, be safe, and happy modding.

And uh, this is why using just one jack is bad, lifting from either side:



Note the dents in my side-skirt where the jackstand dug into the bodywork. Nice, right? Try to avoid that. Use two jacks.
miaM7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2013, 02:41 PM   #13
jason330cic
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 401
My Ride: 2001 330cic
Most jack stands don't fit right on the rubber jack pads. It's best to use flat top jack stands with pad adapters on top.


__________________
Jason330cic



jason330cic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2013, 11:00 PM   #14
evanescent03
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: too far from the nearest track
Posts: 18
My Ride: e46 M3, carbon black
Quote:
Originally Posted by jason330cic View Post
Most jack stands don't fit right on the rubber jack pads. It's best to use flat top jack stands with pad adapters on top.
i think i'm going to try a set of these but without jack pad adapters. i use my jack which has a flat top without adapters. yes, jack points gouge the rubber pad slightly but i'd rather have fewer pieces to the puzzle, personally. i'm really not sure why no one has designed replacement plastic jack points that are solid/rounded plastic/rubber that would fit into the groove of typical jack stands??? it's annoying to have to spend $200+ on jackstands to prevent crushing the jack points.

all i want to do is have my car on jack stands to make changing brakes/wheels/brake fluid easier. is that SOOOO much to ask?? haha. ridiculous!

anyway, thanks for reminding me about these flat top stands. i've been looking for one with a solid top that i could cut down and stick up inside the jack point which isn't a bad option either, but i don't really like cutting down jacks stands either. then they're useless on any other car, too.

another guy made these adapters that fit OVER a jackstand and INTO a jack point. pretty nice actually.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=652459&page=2

(post #26)


matt
evanescent03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 08:08 PM   #15
vaio76109
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 8,830
My Ride: Race Cars
I beleive the earlier sedan have a different front end than coupes that has a purpose built plastic "puck" for jacking... but my 01 coupe doesnt have this. There is a little metal puck(part of the aluminum skid plate) on my car but I doubt how strong it is.
vaio76109 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 03:08 AM   #16
ttran
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Texas
Posts: 377
My Ride: 330Ci
Send a message via AIM to ttran Send a message via Yahoo to ttran
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaio76109
I beleive the earlier sedan have a different front end than coupes that has a purpose built plastic "puck" for jacking... but my 01 coupe doesnt have this. There is a little metal puck(part of the aluminum skid plate) on my car but I doubt how strong it is.
i believe all E46 M3's have this plastic "puck" you're referring to (picture). i can't remember if any of the regular E46's ever had it, but i could be mistaken. at any rate, i know my 01 330 doesn't have it - just a bulge on the aluminum plate. i agree with rox. the only safe way, or at least the only comfortable way i've found, to jack up the front is to use 2 jacks.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	jack pad.jpg
Views:	3514
Size:	113.6 KB
ID:	171609  
ttran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 03:26 AM   #17
vaio76109
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 8,830
My Ride: Race Cars
Quote:
Originally Posted by ttran
i believe all E46 M3's have this plastic "puck" you're referring to (picture). i can't remember if any of the regular E46's ever had it, but i could be mistaken. at any rate, i know my 01 330 doesn't have it - just a bulge on the aluminum plate. i agree with rox. the only safe way, or at least the only comfortable way i've found, to jack up the front is to use 2 jacks.
Yea M3's have it, but for some retarded reason BMW decided people dont need to jack up their 330. Well our cars do have that little nub in the skid plate but its just aluminum and I'm not gonna take the risk. This is what I was talking about on earlier sedans.

vaio76109 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 08:49 PM   #18
PYRITE
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Emeryville, CA
Posts: 1,785
My Ride: 1965 Ford Mustang
rOx ROX ! Great information & Photos! Thank you sir.
__________________
PYRITE IS SOLD!!

Welcome "KRYPTONITE"...
PYRITE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2006, 09:07 PM   #19
Custom3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dirty Jersey
Posts: 5,445
My Ride: HellRot 330CI
Forums like these stay alive cause of people like rOx....thanks for the info man
Custom3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2006, 04:38 AM   #20
sycE46
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,889
My Ride: 323ci
Great writeup and pictures. This will help out a lot of people
sycE46 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Censor is ON





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2011 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use