E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > E46 BMW > ///M3 Forum

///M3 Forum
The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

View Poll Results: Is this a scam or legitimate? My guess is definitely scam.
Yes, obviously. 56 91.80%
Nope, he's legit. 1 1.64%
Tough call. 4 6.56%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rating: Thread Rating: 4 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old 07-17-2009, 04:08 PM   #1
nickr519
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: La Jolla, CA
Posts: 419
My Ride: ZX-10R, Ram 2500
Question e46 m3 buy, is this a scam or real? Must see.

Hi, my names nick and I'm new to the forum (although I have been browsing it for quite a while haha). I live in the Phoenix, AZ area and I have been in the market for an 6mt e46 m3 coupe for a little while. I have been scoping out the phoenix craigslist and have test driven a few m3's I have found (). Recently, I have made a shocking discovery on craigslist, one that I am ALMOST certain is too good to be true.

Someone was offering a quote unquote Clean 2003 M3 convertible... for 7500 dollars. Yes, $7500. Naturally, I sent him a shocked email, asking if it was really true. This is our conversation from that point on:

Him:

Hello there and thanks for your interest,
The car is in perfect working condition.It has no scratches on and hasn't been involved in an accident, no rust.
The motor runs very well.The car was always garaged and never been smoked in.The interior is very clean.Also I want you to know that the car is fully paid off, it's not under leasing or bank liabilities.I am sorry to sell the car for $7,500 but my wife has serious health problems and I need the money to save her life.My wife is very sick and I want to tell you that I am not selling this car for profit.I sell the car to help my wife.I hope to find a buyer as soon as possible.I attached some pics for you.If you have any further question please do not hesitate to ask in order to make this a successful deal.
Best Regards
2003 BMW M3 CONVERTIBLE
Mileage: 34,351
Exterior Color: White
Interior Color: Grey
Transmission: 6 SPD MANUAL
Engine: 6 Cylinders
2003 BMW M3 Convertible, Soft Top, 6 Cylinder, Manual 6 Speed, Power Windows, Locks, Seats, Roof, Mirrors, A/C, Cruise Control, Anti-Lock brakes,
CD Player, Harmon-Kardon Sound System W/ Sub woofer, Keyless Entry, Alarm System, Fog Lights, Memory Seats, Bucket Seats, Driver/Passenger Air Bags,
2WD, 2 Doors, Rear Window Defroster, Wiper, Tinted Glass, 19" Alloy Wheels, Aluminum "M" Pedal Set, Rear Spoiler, Car Cover, Non-smoker. Mint condition!
All Original Manuals, Never Raced, Very Pampered, Rain Sensor, Xenon Lights,Navigation, 2 Sets of Tv's in the back
(This was followed by the pictures I have attached)

Me:

This car looks amazing! I showed my dad everything and he barely believes his eyes, similar to my reaction, and he wants me to follow up with you immediately. (I happen to be the car expert between the two of us). Is there any way you could take a picture of the placard located inside the door which contains the VIN number? My dad wanted to run a carfax like he has with all the other m3s weve looked at together. By the way, my cell phone number is xxx-xxxx feel free to contact me (Nick) if it is easier for you than using email. Also, where in the area are you located?

Him:

Hello there and thank you for comming back,
First off all I want to tell you the car is located in North Bergen, NJ.The sale price is $7,500.00 with shipping/handling included.
The car will be delivered to your address in no more than 5-6 working days.You will be given a 5 days inspection period from the day you receive the car at home.
Ill like to use an eBay service, so we'll be both protected. No money first to me, i will receive money after you will receive the car.The transaction will be made under
eBay's buyer protection plan. Since this deal will be made using a THIRD PARTY to help us closing this deal, I prefer honnest buyers.
Please let me know if you have the funds available and wish to explain you the payment and shipping process.
Thank you
To view the CARFAX Vehicle History Report, please click the link below:
2003 BMW M3 (WBSBR93423PK03705)

Okay, so nearly everything he has said has pointed me in the scam direction for this. But i figured I would consult the fanatics for a little bit of help. Thanks in advance guys, ill keep it updated.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1.JPG
Views:	152
Size:	104.0 KB
ID:	323870   Click image for larger version

Name:	2.JPG
Views:	113
Size:	116.1 KB
ID:	323871   Click image for larger version

Name:	3.JPG
Views:	136
Size:	68.1 KB
ID:	323872   Click image for larger version

Name:	4.JPG
Views:	155
Size:	60.0 KB
ID:	323873  

Click image for larger version

Name:	5.JPG
Views:	116
Size:	54.8 KB
ID:	323874   Click image for larger version

Name:	6.JPG
Views:	116
Size:	71.0 KB
ID:	323875   Click image for larger version

Name:	7.JPG
Views:	114
Size:	85.3 KB
ID:	323876  
nickr519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Ads by Google

Guests, get your FREE E46Fanatics.com membership to remove this ad.
Old 07-17-2009, 04:12 PM   #2
prashil
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: sunny cali
Posts: 106
My Ride: 2000 328ci
ask him why he is selling it so low? Just cause you need the money for something doesn't mean you will sell it for A LOT less than what it worth. I can see if he is selling it 10% under Blue book value, but that is insane. If it's too good to be true, It usually is.
prashil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:17 PM   #3
///BMW5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 489
My Ride: 330ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by prashil View Post
ask him why he is selling it so low? Just cause you need the money for something doesn't mean you will sell it for A LOT less than what it worth. I can see if he is selling it 10% under Blue book value, but that is insane. If it's too good to be true, It usually is.
+1 walk away...just walk away
__________________
///BMW5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:20 PM   #4
nickr519
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: La Jolla, CA
Posts: 419
My Ride: ZX-10R, Ram 2500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ///BMW5 View Post
+1 walk away...just walk away
Yeah don't worry, that's my 99% for sure my decision. At this point, I just want to figure this mystery out.
nickr519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:19 PM   #5
nickr519
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: La Jolla, CA
Posts: 419
My Ride: ZX-10R, Ram 2500
Quote:
Originally Posted by prashil View Post
ask him why he is selling it so low? Just cause you need the money for something doesn't mean you will sell it for A LOT less than what it worth. I can see if he is selling it 10% under Blue book value, but that is insane. If it's too good to be true, It usually is.
Thats exactly what I was thinking, I almost just ignored the ad. But, then I just felt like i needed to follow up because of the ridiculousness. And I sort of did, thats when he said that his wife was ill and he needed the money to save her life. That part rubbed me the wrong way, although that is unfortunate if it's true.
nickr519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:25 PM   #6
sogood
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 68
My Ride: 95 S/C M3, 01 M3
did you even have to make this thread? its obviously a scam. But im not too far from north bergen tell him you have a relative in the area who will come pick it up for you
sogood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:34 PM   #7
nickr519
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: La Jolla, CA
Posts: 419
My Ride: ZX-10R, Ram 2500
Quote:
Originally Posted by sogood View Post
did you even have to make this thread? its obviously a scam. But im not too far from north bergen tell him you have a relative in the area who will come pick it up for you
Sorry man , like I said I've been in the market for a while, I know bmws very well, and I know a scam when I see one. I just figured I'd post since I'm new and it would be better than "Hey i'm nick i like bmws and im awesome etc etc."

In any case, I'll tell him that I have a relative who will come look at the car and get back to you with what he says.
nickr519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:29 PM   #8
prashil
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: sunny cali
Posts: 106
My Ride: 2000 328ci
IF there is a scam, it is somewhere in the ebay service...that's for sure. If you really must get to the bottom of it, I suggest you go through how that service works with a FINE tooth comb. I guarantee the scam has something to do with ebay.
prashil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:29 PM   #9
nasrudin
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: phoenix AZ
Posts: 67
My Ride: 2006 m3
smells like a scam. Not sure if you get any legit assurances by going though ebay, you should ask him for more details on how intends to do the transaction.
__________________
nasrudin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:33 PM   #10
prashil
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: sunny cali
Posts: 106
My Ride: 2000 328ci
my gut feeling on this is that the car is stolen, yet not reported to the police. Say for example, he knows the owners are on vacation, so it must be sold before they get back. He sells it quick through phony documents, owner reports it stolen, seller takes off with the money, buyer gets screwed.
prashil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:43 PM   #11
nickr519
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: La Jolla, CA
Posts: 419
My Ride: ZX-10R, Ram 2500
Quote:
Originally Posted by prashil View Post
IF there is a scam, it is somewhere in the ebay service...that's for sure. If you really must get to the bottom of it, I suggest you go through how that service works with a FINE tooth comb. I guarantee the scam has something to do with ebay.
yeah it wouldn't surprise me at all, nor would it be the first time someone tried to scam me through ebay.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nasrudin View Post
smells like a scam. Not sure if you get any legit assurances by going though ebay, you should ask him for more details on how intends to do the transaction.
Yeah I just asked, will post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by prashil View Post
my gut feeling on this is that the car is stolen, yet not reported to the police. Say for example, he knows the owners are on vacation, so it must be sold before they get back. He sells it quick through phony documents, owner reports it stolen, seller takes off with the money, buyer gets screwed.
I thought about that too.. God what a horrible thing to be caught up in.
nickr519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:54 PM   #12
eas
Past Site Sponsor
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,418
My Ride: BMW
Totally a scam. Don't even waste your time with it.

Anthony @ eas
eas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 05:27 PM   #13
gav981
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 137
My Ride: Is Clean
Send a message via AIM to gav981
If you actually want this car and by some chance this crazy price is real, then **** shipping it, drive it back.

Insist on speaking with him on the phone, say that you've got cash in hand, then say you'll fly over and make the deal in person.

You've got nothing to lose by doing this, I just bought a car out of Phoenix actually and drove it all the way back to Spokane, WA.

I got a fantastic deal and to be honest was slightly skeptical because of that, but when I told him I wanted to fly down, make the deal in person, and drive it back, he was fine with it. This would scare off any scammer, and at the same time excite someone who actually wants to get the car sold.

Do this, it's the only way to know for sure what the story is here, and damn...if that price is real then you've got money to blow on a sweet roadtrip that's gonna be a load of fun.

Last edited by gav981; 07-17-2009 at 05:29 PM.
gav981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:35 PM   #14
GermanMuscle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: buffalo
Posts: 243
My Ride: 02 bmw m3
somebody in nj close to this gay should contact him and see if hed let them come check it out, drive it etc.
GermanMuscle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:37 PM   #15
GermanMuscle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: buffalo
Posts: 243
My Ride: 02 bmw m3
guy*
GermanMuscle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 04:54 PM   #16
Safar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Hague, Netherlands
Posts: 822
My Ride: comes with blow
And the tragedy of it all could be that: he is legit, and figured he could get rid of the car quick by selling it at a ridiculous price. But because everyone thinks it's a scam because of that, nobody buys it and he can't get the money to help his wife
__________________
Vehicle history
1999 BMW E46 328Ci TS2
1992 BMW E36 316i Sold
1987 Suzuki VS1400
1996 Suzuki LS650 Sold
1984 Kawasaki 305CSR RIP

Went from 305cc > 650cc > 1400cc > 2800cc
No prizes for guessing what my next engine will be...


Safar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 05:22 PM   #17
Poofyo101
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 62
My Ride: 08 e92 ///M
^^so obvious
move on
Poofyo101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 05:40 PM   #18
haplo_84
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: WARNER ROBINS, GA
Posts: 181
My Ride: 328Ci
I would definately have someone look at the car in the area to see if its real first, if it is then you could just get a really good freaking deal. But honestly it sounds kinda fishy.
__________________
I still have a ways to go to get it where I want.
haplo_84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 05:47 PM   #19
invictus
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,427
My Ride: M3, 749R, SV650
this is a scam
__________________

CCW. Dunlop. Ground Control. StopTech. Hawk. Vorschlag. Rogue Engineering. Recaro. TCDesign. RaceTech. VAC. Motul. Vorsteiner.
Find me on track: 10/19-21 Sonoma Speedway // 11/10-11 Thunderhill
The story so far...

Fund my track car:

PM me about my: stock diffuser, stock trunk
WTB 1x Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec 265/35/18 (used is okay)
invictus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 05:50 PM   #20
theprizefight
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 31
My Ride: 03 M3 SMG
haha, so so so obvious this is a scam.

references to ebay + shipping/handling = automatic scam. always. no exceptions.
theprizefight is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bmw, craigslist, e46, sale, scam

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Censor is ON





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2011 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use