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Old 08-05-2009, 03:58 PM   #1
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Is HPF M3's really reliable???

Hey guys, thinking about getting HPF stage 2.5 on my 2004 M3 with 26K miles. From what I have read, everyone is happy with the gains in power and performance. My question is regarding reliability. From what HPF states, there is no loss of reliability but is this really true? I live in california and if things go wrong, it would be hard to get the car back to oregan as I do not have a good mechanic that I would trust here. I really do not want to deal with check engine lights, programming issues, leaks, etc.

Also is there anybody in the SF area with a HPF M3?

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Old 08-05-2009, 04:00 PM   #2
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Just from reading stuff up on here, I hear HPF's customer service is insane 9In the good way) and any issues if any get resolved in a timely manner
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Old 08-05-2009, 04:01 PM   #3
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Old 08-05-2009, 04:20 PM   #4
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i think you should be fine going with HPF. you should be more worried about smog check cause your in cali. well, unless you got some hookup! then your gold!
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Old 08-05-2009, 04:25 PM   #5
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i think you should be fine going with HPF. you should be more worried about smog check cause your in cali. well, unless you got some hookup! then your gold!
agreed.
if you take to a place where they inspect everything, you don't have a chance in he!! to pass smog. (visual inspection - fail).
However, if you go to a place where all they do is hookup the rev wire and stick the sniffer in the exhaust, you may have a chance; pending stage 2.5 is clean enough for California.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:32 PM   #6
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agreed.
if you take to a place where they inspect everything, you don't have a chance in he!! to pass smog. (visual inspection - fail).
However, if you go to a place where all they do is hookup the rev wire and stick the sniffer in the exhaust, you may have a chance; pending stage 2.5 is clean enough for California.
not just that.. the HPF kit has a lit SES light on all the time. inspection places willl see this light and not pass it automatically without even thinking twice. like i said, only way is "benjamin hookup" to bypass visual inspection and that lit SES light.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:38 PM   #7
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not just that.. the HPF kit has a lit SES light on all the time. inspection places willl see this light and not pass it automatically without even thinking twice. like i said, only way is "benjamin hookup" to bypass visual inspection and that lit SES light.
Little birdy told me that will go away soon..sshhhh I have an HPF stage 2 on my car and I have 18k miles on it already in 6 months. The car is insain to drive and the customer service at HPF is the best I have ever seen any company do. John the shop manager waited until 8:00 one night because I was held up with traffic. He never complained at all and had my issue fix in 30 minutes.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:08 PM   #8
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hells yes on the ses light disappearing!!!

on the real though. make sure u take it to HPF for install! this way u are sure everything comes back your way smooth and correct.
if you dont want to be shipping your car back and forth, then take my advise to heart
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/\ So sick, esp that rearview mirror! I remember seeing it on youtube a cppl months ago, its amazing how hidden it is when off.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:01 PM   #10
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:00 AM   #11
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Hey guys, thinking about getting HPF stage 2.5 on my 2004 M3 with 26K miles. From what I have read, everyone is happy with the gains in power and performance. My question is regarding reliability. From what HPF states, there is no loss of reliability but is this really true? I live in california and if things go wrong, it would be hard to get the car back to oregan as I do not have a good mechanic that I would trust here. I really do not want to deal with check engine lights, programming issues, leaks, etc.

Also is there anybody in the SF area with a HPF M3?

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Xcoolnessx Has a stage 2.5 in the SF area.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:38 PM   #12
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:28 PM   #13
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i hate all you bastards with new speedo background!!!!!!








:while on the phone ordering new background for gages!




i absolutely love the red background..sick as $hit
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:40 PM   #14
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i want to get those as well, still haven't decided on which color yet....
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:12 PM   #15
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It's amazing isn't it!
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:46 PM   #16
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So that turbo light is replacing the SES light? and the SES is always on thats why theturbo light is on?? am i correct? how do u know when something is actually wrong...
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:57 PM   #17
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i want to get those as well, still haven't decided on which color yet....
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So that turbo light is replacing the SES light? and the SES is always on thats why theturbo light is on?? am i correct? how do u know when something is actually wrong...
Yes. Yes. Yes. Nothing goes wrong with HPF cars, you didnt get the memo?
jk you can buy a cheap code reader and pull codes once in a while to see if anything is wrong.
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[QUOTE=yellowssm;10421586]he can make them in ANY color. GL with the choice

Awesome! I was think maybe blue....
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So that turbo light is replacing the SES light? and the SES is always on thats why theturbo light is on?? am i correct? how do u know when something is actually wrong...
The CEL (check engine light) light still works when there's a major malfunction in the engine even with our turbo systems. All of the necessary lights for major problems still work such as brake service, high coolant temps, low oil level, etc. The "SES" light shows sensors or modules that test out of range. The factory DME is no longer seeing those sensors. Generally speaking, with our turbo kits when something goes bad such as a coil pack, you know it because under boost you hear the car sputter. Then we get a call and send the customer new coil packs if they request them. If a crank sensor goes bad, your car will often mis-fire and sometimes not run, and you'll have to replace the crank sensor. A vanos can go out and start throwing codes in which case the car will still run but it will be down on power. The benefit of the SES light is that you can find out about some of these things as the sensors are starting to read out of range and get them fixed before you notice them. The drawback to having the SES light on all the time is that you will ignore these alerts and will notice the problem while you are driving the car. Either way, you'll have to replace whatever goes bad. The worry is that you might get stuck somewhere when you wouldn't have otherwise. So far our customers haven't reported problems to us that an early SES light would have changed anything.

The good news is, you can still check the codes unrelated to the engine operation.

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Old 08-09-2009, 01:52 AM   #20
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So that turbo light is replacing the SES light? and the SES is always on thats why theturbo light is on?? am i correct? how do u know when something is actually wrong...
I know this feature on the M3s is nice but not every car has this feature. I am so confused as to why so many people ask this question and use this question in an attempt to bash HPF in the past (not saying you are bashing them right now). What do people that drive a car without a computer that tells them whats wrong do??? They drive their car and if something isnt normal they get it fixed. I grew up in a lower class economy family so I guess I just dont see the big deal with my car having to tell me whats wrong
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