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Old 12-15-2011, 11:36 AM   #1
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Recongnize pharmacist petition

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-...care-providers

Just spreading the word...If you guys can take a min to sign this petition...would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:41 AM   #2
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why they are not even "real" doctors
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:45 AM   #3
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why they are not even "real" doctors
another stupid post by you. They are by definition health care providers.
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:46 AM   #4
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why they are not even "real" doctors
pharmacist aren't doctors nor want to be called one...asking to be recognize as healthcare providers.

unlike chiropractors and optometrist
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:52 AM   #5
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pharmacist aren't doctors nor want to be called one...asking to be recognize as healthcare providers.

unlike chiropractors and optometrist
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:27 PM   #6
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"not" real doctors...of course not.....

but how many times does someone go to the pharmacist and ask them what kind of medication should they use and how much to treat this and that???

those are questions for the "real" doctors.....no?
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Stick to cats...

I personally know many pharmacists have greater knowledge of the risks mixing drugs. Many have studied the effects of different prescriptions for many years, and in fact is a duty to cross reference the drugs listed by a patient, and contact the doctor who issued if a red flag is raised.

Also, they are the people in charge of filling your prescription correctly. Ever get a drug that isn't yours? It happens, rarely, but it happens. They have ultimate control over most controlled substances, and are obligated to contact authorities when they see the signs of an abuser.

Think about the ultimate power these people have in terms of the healthcare industry. They spend almost as much time in school, and certainly much more time than a nurse, RNA and many other "healthcare providers", yet are not allowed to give advice, and have to channel all questions through a nurse, with little to no real experience other than checking blood pressure, pulse, temperature and asking you to take your clothes off.
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pharmacist aren't doctors nor want to be called one...asking to be recognize as healthcare providers.

unlike chiropractors and optometrist

blah blah blah. if I told you that I am a licensed pharmacist in Texas would you believe me?
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:37 PM   #7
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blah blah blah. if I told you that I am a licensed pharmacist in Texas would you believe me?
you don't consider yourself a "health care provider"?
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you don't consider yourself a "health care provider"?
I hold a PharmD and a license (still valid) to practice in Texas but I don't. I decided to try a different career field. I do renew my license when the time comes because going back into the filed is my plan B in case my current job doesn't work out.

originally got an engineering degree in California. Went back to school to get doctorate degree in Pharmacy. Didn't like sitting around in the office and dealing with arrogant doctors so I went back to my old profession. Don't regret it at all cuz there is much more room for growth and promotion as an engineering. recently moved from Dallas to OKC and just loving life.
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you don't consider yourself a "health care provider"?
no I don't because of explanation above. beside, seriously ANYONE can be a pharmacist. you only need the license and schooling for liability purposes.

let me make this very simple and quick.

"pharmacists are nothing more than a middle man" and a person that "takes the hit" when things go wrong.

a. Doctors perscribe medicine
b. Pharmacist Technicians do everything to include filling the perscription
c. As a pharmacist I sign off on the meds.
d. the computers tells me what dosage the patient should take, if there are any conflicts such as mixing drugs, what side effects of the medicine, etc

seriously, 99.9% of my time as a pharmacist was just to "check the block." Some pharmacists just signed the paperwork without checking anything. Again, the technicians are the work horse and are more actively involved.
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why they are not even "real" doctors
Nurses aren't 'doctors' but they are care providers.
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pharmacist aren't doctors nor want to be called one...asking to be recognize as healthcare providers.

unlike chiropractors and optometrist
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Nurses aren't 'doctors' but they are care providers.
exactly. Ignore this chick that thinks she knows all.
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another stupid post by you. They are by definition health care providers.
what's your problem dude. why are you so hostile and aggresive. calm down dude and go get laid or something. geez
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It's not an issue about recognition. It's about the money.
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This is BS. Do you know how much a Pharmacist makes???

My wife is a tech at Target, and her boss clears $180,000 a year before bonuses. And this is small town PA... LA, NYC and other major cities would pull 3 times that easy.

Technically, they are not allowed to administer shots/medication. My wife is fully trained to do so, and has to give everyone their flu shots, and the pharmacist, which spent 6 years in school, and did a residency cannot...

It is more about untying the hands of a trained person according to the law.
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$180,000!!! i need to start working for Target
and they don't have to give flu shots....amazing
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This is BS. Do you know how much a Pharmacist makes???

My wife is a tech at Target, and her boss clears $180,000 a year before bonuses. And this is small town PA... LA, NYC and other major cities would pull 3 times that easy.

Technically, they are not allowed to administer shots/medication. My wife is fully trained to do so, and has to give everyone their flu shots, and the pharmacist, which spent 6 years in school, and did a residency cannot...

It is more about untying the hands of a trained person according to the law.
Didn't sign. Pharmacists make enough money as is without being able to scam medicare/medicaid.

I hear kaputs wife is rich and she voluntarily commutes 150 miles every day and works 80 hours a week because she is so baller.
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Because that pharmacist didn't take a certification class to give shots. As a business point of view...its cheaper to have the tech spend time and give the shots.

Just an FYI - avg pharmacist salary is 120K....no pharmD is pulling over 250K without working 2 jobs

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This is BS. Do you know how much a Pharmacist makes???

My wife is a tech at Target, and her boss clears $180,000 a year before bonuses. And this is small town PA... LA, NYC and other major cities would pull 3 times that easy.

Technically, they are not allowed to administer shots/medication. My wife is fully trained to do so, and has to give everyone their flu shots, and the pharmacist, which spent 6 years in school, and did a residency cannot...

It is more about untying the hands of a trained person according to the law.
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This is BS. Do you know how much a Pharmacist makes???

My wife is a tech at Target, and her boss clears $180,000 a year before bonuses. And this is small town PA... LA, NYC and other major cities would pull 3 times that easy.

Technically, they are not allowed to administer shots/medication. My wife is fully trained to do so, and has to give everyone their flu shots, and the pharmacist, which spent 6 years in school, and did a residency cannot...

It is more about untying the hands of a trained person according to the law.
Yes I do know how much they make. Starting out of school, you can easily make 120k (even more in rural areas where there is a stronger need). Doctors and dentists have been able to bill for counseling for years, pharmacists are just now wanting a slice of the pie. I think this is BS, as counseling should be something you provide as a courtesy to your patients. I am a dentist and never bill my patients for showing them how to brush and floss or providing information on how to quit smoking, even though I could.

A pharmacist can take a CE course and administer vaccinations too. Nothing special there. Counseling of patients has always been one of the job duties of a pharmacist. There is no hand tying going on unless you're talking about the ability for a pharmacist to charge for their advice. I have never heard one single pharmacist complain that they are not being adequately compensated for their services. They may not get the appreciation or the title of doctor, but they make plenty of money.
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This is BS. Do you know how much a Pharmacist makes???

My wife is a tech at Target, and her boss clears $180,000 a year before bonuses. And this is small town PA... LA, NYC and other major cities would pull 3 times that easy.

Technically, they are not allowed to administer shots/medication. My wife is fully trained to do so, and has to give everyone their flu shots, and the pharmacist, which spent 6 years in school, and did a residency cannot...

It is more about untying the hands of a trained person according to the law.
Thats the complete opposite here in FL, well at CVS/Pharamacy where I work, the TECH's, DO NOT give the shots. They bill the insurance companies, type the flu shot up as the prescription for the insurance to have soethiing to look at and bill, and complete the filling process regarding the flu shot forms, hand over to the pharamacist, pharmacist verifys that the info is correct and then gives the shot himself. How is it that the TECHs are able to give the shots where you at?
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