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Old 08-24-2012, 12:46 AM   #1
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Who cheated like the rest of his sport... A cheating champ none the less.
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The part that the USADA is a private organization that makes and decides its own rules, and still hasn't found anything more than strong indicators of doping, is enough grounds to strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France titles is wrong. I can easily see how a person would no longer want to take part of something that isn't even part of the legal system.

At the same time, the fact that Armstrong just gave up on the dispute means there will never be any definite answer, only a definite ruling.

Overall a sad outcome, both being declared a cheater, and not knowing for sure if he ever was a cheater. The only thing I know for sure is that USADA and this ruling has put the last nail on the coffin for me when it comes to competitive cycling.
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The part that the USADA is a private organization that makes and decides its own rules, and still hasn't found anything more than strong indicators of doping, is enough grounds to strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France titles is wrong. I can easily see how a person would no longer want to take part of something that isn't even part of the legal system.

At the same time, the fact that Armstrong just gave up on the dispute means there will never be any definite answer, only a definite ruling.

Overall a sad outcome, both being declared a cheater, and not knowing for sure if he ever was a cheater. The only thing I know for sure is that USADA and this ruling has put the last nail on the coffin for me when it comes to competitive cycling.

He passed his drug tests when they were given. It is not his job to prove he is innocent, it is their job to prove he is guilty. And they never did that. They have been dragging Lance around for years and they are no closer to proving him guilty now than when they started.

He defended himself for several years and I guess they wore him out. I wonder how much money he spent in legal fees and lost endorsements from this ?

BTW, bike racing is a major event in France. I wonder if the French were pushing the investigation to strip him of his medals because he was American and not French ? Just a random thought............
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I don't know why they keep bringing this up. If he passed the tests then, leave him alone.
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I don't know why they keep bringing this up. If he passed the tests then, leave him alone.
U know Marion jones passed several ped tests so don't even go there.


Armstrong is a cheater and there are so many people ready to testify too.

The sport is so dirty - got it?
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Armstrong is a cheater and there are so many people ready to testify too.

The sport is so dirty - got it?
still hasn't been proven.
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From what I briefly read the actual cycling organization that does tour de France has been backing through this it is ultimately their choice to strip the titles. USADA is insistent that they do as a "signed" partner in the anti-doping act something or other. But it is their choice so we shall see. Personally I think it's a bunch of bullshit. Don't blame lance at this point.

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No I think he had his removed.
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Everyone in pro sports does it. Let's just drop this bs and let the best of the users shine.
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I don't agree

The sport is dirty and cheaters must pay.


It was a matter of time before this guy was found guilty.


Guys u have to understand there are new ways to test.

Cheaters have had an advantage for some time. Tech is catching up.
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The sport is dirty and cheaters must pay.


It was a matter of time before this guy was found guilty.


Guys u have to understand there are new ways to test.

Cheaters have had an advantage for some time. Tech is catching up.
He passed hundreds of blood and urine tests. They are getting there doping info from people they caught doping, and were still allowed to cycle if they specifically said lance was doping. There was no evidence or proof after 15 years of blood and urine tests.
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if he believes in his heart that he's a champion, it shouldn't matter what the record books say.

either way, he's famous and rich now... that's not going away. so i agree with this move, just fcuk everyone and life goes on.

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As lame as it is that a "champ" cheated, the sad truth is that EVERYONE in his sport was also doing it. What pisses me off is somewhere out there the guy who got second place in one of Lance's races, and also cheated, is now walking around saying he was the true winner of that race.

I'm with my cousin on this one... let them all do whatever they want and lets start cheering on super athletes. What could be more fun than an entire team of HGH, testosterone filled monsters returning a kickoff.
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The part that the USADA is a private organization that makes and decides its own rules, and still hasn't found anything more than strong indicators of doping, is enough grounds to strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France titles is wrong. I can easily see how a person would no longer want to take part of something that isn't even part of the legal system.

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