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Old 09-14-2012, 06:24 AM   #1
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Dice Mediabridge with iPhone5: Will it work?

There have been a few interesting articles out in the last few days speculating which legacy iPhone/iPod accessories (based on the 30 pin connector) will continue to work in the brave new world of the iPhone5's "Lightning" connector. Specifically, the Lightning connector is 100% digital, and while apple will offer an adapter that looks like it converts Lightning -> 30 pin, that connector does no digital-to-analog conversion.

Have a look:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7...s-in-the-dust/
http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/13/apple-...lity-iphone-5/

As a result, any accessories that used to rely on the analog audio signals from the 30 pin connector will be "stuck".

I have a 1-year-old Dice Mediabridge in my '04 330Ci, and, no hating please, it works great for my purposes. I have it wired up with both an iPhone/iPod 30 pin connector and also a 1/8" headphone connector running to my sunglasses cubby below my HVAC controls. My question is this: when I plug in my iPhone using the 30 pin connector, which signal is the Dice unit actually using: the analog signal or the digital one? If it's the analog one, then I'm stuck if I upgrade to the iPhone5. If it's the digital one, then it should be no problem, once I buy the $30 converter from apple.

I know the Mediabrdige is capable of handling a fully digital interface over USB because it can play from a USB stick with no analog output capability at all. But I'm just not sure what it does when both are available. The last detail: do you guys think the answer to this question depends on which "mode" I employ when using my iPhone over the 30 pin connector: full iPhone control vs "locked"/"accessory connected" mode?

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Old 09-14-2012, 09:20 AM   #2
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Wondering the same thing.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:16 PM   #3
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I thought that the 30 pin connector gave off a digital signal that the receiving device decoded and the headphone jack was the analog signal. I've been looking at portable headphone amps and they all use the 30 pin connector rather than the headphone jack because the amps have a built in DAC.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:27 PM   #4
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The 30 pin connector has both digital and analog outputs in it.

For example, there are adapters that are 30 pin male -> 1/8" female (or male) used to connect to accessories that expect line level analog signals. Like this: http://goo.gl/m8d9U
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:38 AM   #5
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Your Mediabridge will work just fine with Apple's adapter with the iPhone 5 to the best of our knowledge so far! We also are waiting to get our hands on the new phone to do further testing, but on paper everything checks out. We will have further updates on this on our facebook page/website as we have it!
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:28 AM   #6
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So which does the Mediabridge utilize with their 30-pin dock cord? Digital or analog?
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:54 PM   #7
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From everything I have heard, the adapter has a built in DAC... hence the $30 price tag. If you read the BGR link above, it points out that this allows the new phone to work with old accessories that use analog audio input.

As I have a Silverline that didn't even work for the iPhone 4s, I imagine even with the adapter the iPhone 5 won't work. I wonder what's going to be the first solution available for us to take advantage of the new connector... or if I'll have to rely on a Mediabridge with bluetooth audio?
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:58 PM   #8
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Question I have, is can a USB Lightning cable (like the one that comes with the iPhone 5), be plugged straight into the mediabridge's USB port?
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:12 PM   #9
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I think so, or at least this would lead us to believe so: http://www.ceoutlook.com/2012/09/26/...thout-adapter/
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:22 PM   #10
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Found this as well, so it's definitely sounding good.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...171197911.html

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I think so, or at least this would lead us to believe so: http://www.ceoutlook.com/2012/09/26/...thout-adapter/
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:30 PM   #11
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Hi All.. I just bought the Audiovox-Dice-Mediabridge 1500-BMW. Before I installed it I did a "Dry Run" and Plugged it into the Wires in the trunk and My Radio (Harman Kardon) recognized it fine. No worries right? I wish. I ran all the wiring and mounted the Mediabridge under the Glove Box. The radio still recognizes the Mediabridge but I cannot connect my iPhone5 via Bluetooth. Here's what I've done.
1. I Confirmed Mediabridge has latest firmware. 2. Followed the Mediabridge instructions. 3. Removed my headphones and my other car (Nissan Altima) from the Bluetooth of my iPhone 5. 4. I even "cleared" the Mediabridge Bluetooth settings just in case another phone was synced. Still no Bluetooth connection. 5. I then tried my wife's iPhone 4 and was successful in connecting via Bluetooth. So the iphone4 works. (I also connected to my Altima just to confirm my iphone5's Bluetooth was on)
Does anyone know why I cannot connect my iPhone 5 using Bluetooth to the Mediabridge? Have you tried it yet? Have you heard any rumors if it's a iPhone issue or a Mediabridge issue? Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:35 PM   #12
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I don't yet have an iPhone 5 to test with, but Bluetooth in general can be finicky. Some things you could try:

1. Make sure you are running latest MediaBridge firmware (6518), then try again.
2. Reboot iPhone 5, then try again.
3. Do a 'clear all settings' on the iPhone, then try again.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:08 PM   #13
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mediabridge with iphone 5

I tried all that without success. I got a hold of Audiovox who said it is NOT compatible. However, bavariansoundwerks, who I purchased it from says it will. (After many emails). They told me they will make a video explaining this. I'm waiting for that now.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:09 AM   #14
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That's a bummer. Funny thing is that Bluetooth is supposed to be standards based, and newer versions are all supposed to be backwards compatible. Bluetooth devices really should 'just work' with each other - that was part of the promise of Bluetooth. Unfortunately that is not how things turned out.

Please keep us posted.

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I tried all that without success. I got a hold of Audiovox who said it is NOT compatible. However, bavariansoundwerks, who I purchased it from says it will. (After many emails). They told me they will make a video explaining this. I'm waiting for that now.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:55 AM   #15
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My iPhone 5 works fine over bluetooth with the media bridge. I have yet to try plugging the lighting cable into the media bridge. I will get a second one and try it.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:31 AM   #16
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My 330Ci has a Dice Silverline Pro adapter that's connected to the CD changer connectors in the trunk. My iPhone 5 with the adapter works identically to my iPhone 3GS.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:36 AM   #17
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My 330Ci has a Dice Silverline Pro adapter that's connected to the CD changer connectors in the trunk. My iPhone 5 with the adapter works identically to my iPhone 3GS.
are you using a USB lighting cable or a 30pin to lighting adapter?
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 AM   #18
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30 pin connector with the lightning adapter.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:44 PM   #19
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As Zebrex and Markus are reporting, and as we have seen the iPhone 5 works with the units we have seen. If you had ordered through us we could exchange that unit for you to see if another works out!
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:25 PM   #20
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Please be more clear: "works" with the iPhone 5 how? In what modes? Bluetooth? USB-to-Lightning cable?

Those of you with the MediaBridge: try it with the USB-to-Lightning cable and we can close this open question for good.
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