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Old 10-04-2012, 01:11 AM   #1
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:46 AM   #2
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Doesnt look like a BMW approved oil.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:47 AM   #3
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:06 AM   #4
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Nobody with any sense is going to use that in their e46.


I mean, assuming they want to retain the quality of their engine.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:14 AM   #5
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Good oil for 323
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:48 PM   #6
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:08 PM   #7
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:46 PM   #8
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Thanks. Although it isn't the right fill for the e46, it will work fine in many other vehicles.
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I bet it works fine for e46 too. i mean it's full synthetic 5w30 same as. Possibly rebadged BMW OEM oil in disguise

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Old 10-05-2012, 04:49 AM   #10
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I bet it works fine for e46 too. i mean it's full synthetic 5w30 same as. Possibly rebadged BMW OEM oil in disguise
Most full synthetic 5W30's don't meet spec (to thin at operating temperature, HTHS to low).. Why do you think this one does?
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:03 AM   #11
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Is this some kind of joke? Who would seriously consider using an oil just because it comes with a coupon, when it does not meet the specs.
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Is this some kind of joke? Who would seriously consider using an oil just because it comes with a coupon, when it does not meet the specs.
Perhaps you have never read any of the oil pissing contests, err, I mean threads, on this forum. PLENTY of people use oils that do not meet the BMW spec - even without a coupon!
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PLENTY of people use oils that do not meet the BMW spec
...and then report back: I've used XXX for 3000 miles with no problem!

This to save $10, maybe $12. And many of these drivers will stretch the 15K interval, too

But do the arithmetic. Make it simple. Assume $10 in price savings and a 10K change interval. That means saving a whole 1/10 of a penny per mile! If you can't afford another dollar every thousand miles, then you can't afford an E46, a BMW, or any car, for that matter.

Boggles my mind how some people seem incapable of looking for "BMW LL-01" on the back of a bottle.
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...and then report back: I've used XXX for 3000 miles with no problem!

This to save $10, maybe $12. And many of these drivers will stretch the 15K interval, too

But do the arithmetic. Make it simple. Assume $10 in price savings and a 10K change interval. That means saving a whole 1/10 of a penny per mile! If you can't afford another dollar every thousand miles, then you can't afford an E46, a BMW, or any car, for that matter.

Boggles my mind how some people seem incapable of looking for "BMW LL-01" on the back of a bottle.
Because BMWNA left out that critical piece of info fron the U.S owners manual (it is in all other countries owners manuals).
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Because BMWNA left out that critical piece of info fron the U.S owners manual (it is in all other countries owners manuals).
Use only approved BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil.
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Ask your BMW center for details concerning the specific BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil or synthetic oils that have been approved.

You can also call BMW of North America toll-free at 1-800-831-1117 or visit this website: www.bmwusa.com to obtain this information.

The above was pasted from p. 133 of the 2004 manual for the USA, the earliest available online (emphasis mine). Says the same thing on p. 122 of my 2000 manual.

You are correct in that it doesn't state to look for "LL-01", this pretty clear indication that any-old-synthetic isn't going to work. Calling or going to the website will tell you to look for "BMW approved" and "LL-01" and provide the list of oils that meet the standard.

But what moved BMW to omit the explicit wording from the manual that would avoid all this confusion?

Of course, the best thing to do as a community is to tell people in the USA: just buy at the dealer; it's even cheaper than the approved Mobil and Castrol.

BTW, has anybody seen the "Euro Formula" Pennzoil or Quaker State at retail?
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...and then report back: I've used XXX for 3000 miles with no problem!

This to save $10, maybe $12. And many of these drivers will stretch the 15K interval, too

But do the arithmetic. Make it simple. Assume $10 in price savings and a 10K change interval. That means saving a whole 1/10 of a penny per mile! If you can't afford another dollar every thousand miles, then you can't afford an E46, a BMW, or any car, for that matter.

Boggles my mind how some people seem incapable of looking for "BMW LL-01" on the back of a bottle.
Automotive Darwinisim.
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