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Old 11-30-2012, 12:36 PM   #1
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Would you ever buy an Audi after owning a BMW?

I just parked next to a silver B5 S4, to me one of the cleanest best looking cars and in theory a perfect performance storm, twin turbo? 6 banger? AWD? Nice... But no they decided to be a hurricane of PITA repairs and maintenance.... What a shame, would you ever own an Audi? Did you? Seems like I hear more people saying never again to Audi more than never again to Chevy lol...
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:42 PM   #2
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Owned an A4 2.0T and it was the biggest POS maintenance wise.

The car itself handled wonderfully with the quattro system, although admitably it did feel quite heavy. Interior aesthetics were beyond any probably 90% of other cars out there of the same generation. Wasn't too bad on gas either.

In one sentance: do not own out of warranty.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:44 PM   #3
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Owned an A4 2.0T and it was the biggest POS maintenance wise.

The car itself handled wonderfully with the quattro system, although admitably it did feel quite heavy. Interior aesthetics were beyond any probably 90% of other cars out there of the same generation. Wasn't too bad on gas either.

In one sentance: do not own out of warranty.
I hate that because I don't keep cars stock, and if I love a car enough I will keep it longer than the warranty period. I'm afraid of my current car enough lol
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:44 PM   #4
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I'd consider an A5 because I love their interiors and the body style, but what draws me to BMW is the heavy steering feel. It's just unmatched by any competitor.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:49 PM   #5
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I'd consider an A5 because I love their interiors and the body style, but what draws me to BMW is the heavy steering feel. It's just unmatched by any competitor.
I drove one, numb light steering and super stiff suspension that didn't have the handling to justify it, not even close.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:04 PM   #6
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I drove one, numb light steering and super stiff suspension that didn't have the handling to justify it, not even close.
WHY CAN'T ANY COMPANY GET THIS RIGHT?!
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:47 PM   #7
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I'd consider an A5 because I love their interiors and the body style, but what draws me to BMW is the heavy steering feel. It's just unmatched by any competitor.


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Especially after retrofitting the older heavier steering rack. It's funny when someone not used to my car gets in they always say something like "the power steering is broken" , hahaha



My dad just got an a4 b6, well maintained by audi dealer. I have nothing bad to say about the car. It's what he wanted , German AWD 6-speed 4-door nice interior. I hate that the gearbox feels so mushy and lightweight. Perhaps it's because I compare it against my tight UUC SSK. Hmm maybe for christmas I'll get him an SSK
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:52 PM   #8
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Owned an A4 2.0T and it was the biggest POS maintenance wise.

The car itself handled wonderfully with the quattro system, although admitably it did feel quite heavy. Interior aesthetics were beyond any probably 90% of other cars out there of the same generation. Wasn't too bad on gas either.

In one sentance: do not own out of warranty.
Never met anyone with a used/older Audi that did not have a complaint.
I get it that cars are not perfect, but Audi being a premium brand some these issue should not come up.
BMW also gets it that it's a good idea to build cars that are (relatively) easy to maintain because the car will hold value better.
I would love to get an RS4, incredible car, but the maintenance on that thing will make you sell a liver.
Or even the relatively pedestrian a4 v6. Look at the link below for how to replace timing belt and water pump
http://ramspeedautomotive.com.au/blo...tag/water-pump

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:58 PM   #9
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Look at the link below for how to replace timing belt and water pump
http://ramspeedautomotive.com.au/blo...tag/water-pump
Yeah, I forgot that, but my friend told me he tried to save money and did that as a DIY. Note the whole front end is off the car. I think that's when he said "No More" and is selling his for $5k.

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Old 11-30-2012, 01:17 PM   #10
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Never met anyone with a used/older Audi that did not have a complaint.
I get it that cars are not perfect, but Audi being a premium brand some these issue should not come up.
BMW also gets it that it's a good idea to build cars that are (relatively) easy to maintain because the car will hold value better.
I would love to get an RS4, incredible car, but the maintenance on that thing will make you sell a liver.
Or even the relatively pedestrian a4 v6. Look at the link below for how to replace timing belt and water pump
http://ramspeedautomotive.com.au/blo...tag/water-pump
Exactly, and its not just about the maintenance cost. Doing your own work on these cars is a headache - very unfriendly to DIYers.

YMMV based on model and job, but overall I would not own one again unless its warrantied. Like percisionx said, this won't happen for me as im the type of person who needs to be able to do my own work.
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Exactly, and its not just about the maintenance cost. Doing your own work on these cars is a headache - very unfriendly to DIYers.

YMMV based on model and job, but overall I would not own one again unless its warrantied. Like percisionx said, this won't happen for me as im the type of person who needs to be able to do my own work.
Having to take the front of the car off for a timing belt would frustrate me to no end. I can't believe manufacturers still use timing belts these days. A chain is vastly superior.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:52 PM   #12
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NO! I actually also have a 2003 New Beetle Convertible in the family that was purchased new. The VW makes the BMW look as reliable as a bicycle!!

Luckily the VW has cheap parts and is not bad for a DIY mobile.

An Audi, I hear you should watch out.

If you want an Audi, LEASE IT!!
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:35 PM   #13
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this is the general statement from almost all audi/vdubbers i know.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:44 PM   #15
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I just parked next to a silver B5 S4, to me one of the cleanest best looking cars and in theory a perfect performance storm, twin turbo? 6 banger? AWD? Nice... But no they decided to be a hurricane of PITA repairs and maintenance.... What a shame, would you ever own an Audi? Did you? Seems like I hear more people saying never again to Audi more than never again to Chevy lol...
My sister owns a Audi A4 B7 2.0T. It has been in the shop quite a few times, but not for anything major. Her radiator cracked once. That was the most inconvienient one. I think they are a little less reliable than our BMWs, but not by much. I see a lot of special tools for sale online that I really wouldn't want to have to buy. As far as comfort and handling and all that, it about equals an E46 or E90 except it is FWD. That's the only thing I dislike about the car. The torque steer is preposterous. If I were to buy an Audi, I would definitely get an S4 Quattro and that's it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:46 PM   #17
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Audi is nice parked at garage 24/7 all year around.
Because it is broken.
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I would have an Audi RS4 to add to my stable...
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:46 PM   #19
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Before I purchased my E46, I had it narrowed down to a ~04 S4 or an E46 XI. I went with my current choice based on a couple things. Cheaper insurance, cheaper initial cost, heard better things about reliability, and because chick magnet. While S4's are certainly clean and look good, I much prefer the E46's lines.

Oh how I wish I had the V8 some days though..

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:47 PM   #20
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Maybe a TT RS or an R8. Maybe an RS4. I considered a B5 A4 1.8T quattro at one point. Glad I opted for an e46 instead.
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