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Old 11-30-2012, 02:20 PM   #1
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6-speeds - When?

Hey everyone,

I'm curious when the 330s became 6-speeds. I remember reading a while back that - I think - the sedan became a 6-speed in 2003 (maybe 2003.5?).

Is this accurate? Does it apply to the coupe as well, or did the coupe get a 6-speed at a later or earlier date?

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Old 11-30-2012, 02:23 PM   #2
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I'm pretty sure it's 03.5. maybe june?? i'm also pretty sure it applied to all non-m e46s in manual
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:37 PM   #3
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:04 PM   #5
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Coupes are 6spd since 2004. Sedans ^
All facelifted 330 coupes (petrol and diesel) were 6 speed and they started producing them in March 2003. One can call them 2024. model year, it doesn't matter - the production date is from March 2003 and on...
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:52 PM   #6
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All facelifted 330 coupes (petrol and diesel) were 6 speed and they started producing them in March 2003. One can call them 2024. model year, it doesn't matter - the production date is from March 2003 and on...
Where can I find the brochure for one of those 2024 Three Series?
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:18 PM   #7
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All facelifted 330 coupes (petrol and diesel) were 6 speed and they started producing them in March 2003. One can call them 2024. model year, it doesn't matter - the production date is from March 2003 and on...
Great info, thanks.

What are the wheels that are in your sig? What style #? Where they the premium option wheels for the 330i or Ci?
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:03 PM   #8
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I have a 6spd 3.5 coupe.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:24 PM   #9
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I have a 6spd 3.5 coupe.
Hmm... Really? Ok, maybe I am messing it with ZHP coupes, which started on 2004?....
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:23 AM   #10
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Hmm... Really? Ok, maybe I am messing it with ZHP coupes, which started on 2004?....
Well ZHP coupes as a whole started in 2004 (ZHP sedans started in 2003), so that's probably what you are thinking.

I think it is accurate to say that all 330s became 6-speeds around the 2003 model year.

Any more input is welcome.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:18 PM   #11
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Hmm... Really? Ok, maybe I am messing it with ZHP coupes, which started on 2004?....
You're both right. Coupes built in march 2003 were all titled as 2004 models.

ZHP coupes werent sold built until September 2003 however.
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Where can I find the brochure for one of those 2024 Three Series?
I don't know. I don't think anyone knows...but one can call it "ultra-mega next millenium model", it doesn't matter, it's just the name. When it comes to buying/replacing parts, what really matters is production date (probably the reason why Germans put THAT date beside VIN number on the VIN plate, and not "model year").

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Great info, thanks.

What are the wheels that are in your sig? What style #? Where they the premium option wheels for the 330i or Ci?
Style 72s or V-spoke. They were option 18'' sport wheels for earlier coupes in Europe. Standard ones were 17'' style 68s at that time.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:08 PM   #13
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...so I will take the heat....but I really dont know.....can you swap out a 5 speed manual to a 6 speed in a '05 325i ?


big problems? or plug and play?

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Old 12-02-2012, 11:29 PM   #14
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You're both right. Coupes built in march 2003 were all titled as 2004 models.
wait..what?? are you saying all 3/2003 Coupes are 2004 models?
i know the usual for BMW is Sept so if that's what you're saying i'd like to see this info.
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wait..what?? are you saying all 3/2003 Coupes are 2004 models?
That's what some say. I know the Wiki says the six speed came in with the March '03 production, so the implication is that this was called an '04. I have no way to verify that.

Some good DIY info here: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...659314&page=15

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Old 12-03-2012, 03:09 AM   #16
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wait..what?? are you saying all 3/2003 Coupes are 2004 models?
i know the usual for BMW is Sept so if that's what you're saying i'd like to see this info.
Except for the M3s. But yes. The facelift started in March 2003, and there is no 2003 facelift coupe.

http://www.bmwvin.com/?vin=PL10006

Take a look at that link. Note the following: Type code BD53, which is the designation for the facelift coupes. Build date March 7, 2003. Of note, the VIN for the car in the link above is: WBABD53404PL10006 -- Digit number 10 represents the model year designated for this car. 4 = 2004. So this is a case where we have a car built on March 7, 2003 that is titled as a 2004 model. This particular car is a facelift 330ci


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Well now that i am informed about 6 speed manual 330's......

How hard, and would it be cost effective to transplant a 330 6 speed into a 5 speed 325ci convertible? I'm experienced with doing all the work myself but question is....... is it worth it? Especially in a Black on Black 325CI 'vert?

I would assume this would help with gas mileage because in the 5 Speed 325's when you are on the highway your RPM's hover around 2750-3k and consume 28 -26mpg (estimated speed 60-70mph)

I would imagine with the 6 Speed could result in 32-34mpg? - what do you 330 6 speeds get on the highway USING cruise control on "relatively level road surfaces"

















Difficulty wouldn't be much worse than changing the clutch.

You'd need the flywheel, clutch, and transission from a 330 6-speed. Then you would either need a 325 SMG driveshaft or a 330i 6MT driveshaft + 330 diff.


If you can get the parts cheap, it might be worth it. Especially if you needed a new clutch and flywheel anyway.


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That's what some say. I know the Wiki says the six speed came in with the March '03 production, so the implication is that this was called an '04. I have no way to verify that.

Some good DIY info here: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...659314&page=15

6 speeds did start in March 03. March 2003 also happens to be when the facelift coupe started, which BMW decided to sell as 2004 models.

So you have some 2003 sedans with 6-speeds and no 2003 coupes with them -- even though the 6-speed sedans and coupes were built at the same time.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:38 AM   #17
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I have a 6spd 3.5 coupe.
I bet you do, but it's not a BMW!

None larger than 3.0
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:42 AM   #18
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I bet you do, but it's not a BMW!

None larger than 3.0
lololol nice
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None larger than 3.0
I think he was referring to the year, not displacement (ie, 2003 post March production).
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I think he was referring to the year, not displacement (ie, 2003 post March production).
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