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Old 12-03-2012, 10:59 PM   #1
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Need a wheel manufacturer- Custom

I need 22.5x 8.5, I need alot of inventory its for a relatively big business. I just need it because it will cut down costs by a large margin if i can get it a manufacturer cost.

Lighter/stronger the better, Magnesium alloy if possible.

I know this is E46F so lol LONG SHOT approach but I knew there are knowledgeable people on this forum.
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Contact MHT wheels. They make many wheels on the market including ADV1 and Foose. If trolling, because race-car.
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Contact MHT wheels. They make many wheels on the market including ADV1 and Foose. If trolling, because race-car.
I thought ADV1 bought their own CNC machines
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Nah, its been known that ADV1 wheels are manufactured by MHT, just do a search. A bunch of threads will pop up talking about it on different forums.
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Enkei will make custom wheels... Minimum order of 40 rims. Their warehouse distributor prices are very low.

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Thanks, will do

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Yes, truck wheels. You got from 22.5x8.5

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Thanks, will they do mag alloy ?

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40rims, no problem , but i want the cost down to like 30-45 wheel

If I can get under $45 a rim for a magnesium alloy, Im pretty much in business.
Style or looks is a non issue right now, just basic wheels so start it off. I appreciate everyones help.
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You're best served by contacting them directly because I've been out of the wheel business for almost 10 years.

But I think Alcoa doesn't do mag, only aluminum. I also think mag isnt suitable for heavy truck wheels. And my sense is that I may be wasting your time suggesting Alcoa because they're nowhere close to the prices you're talking about.
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You're best served by contacting them directly because I've been out of the wheel business for almost 10 years.

But I think Alcoa doesn't do mag, only aluminum. I also think mag isnt suitable for heavy truck wheels. And my sense is that I may be wasting your time suggesting Alcoa because they're nowhere close to the prices you're talking about.
I was gonna say....Alcoa makes OEM wheels for Lambos, and I'm pretty sure they are nowhere NEAR 45 a wheel...maybe $945 a wheel.
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$45 a wheel for magnesium? You're out of your mind. You're better off with aluminum.
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$45 a wheel for magnesium? You're out of your mind. You're better off with aluminum.
just for clarification forged aluminium is what most custom wheels are made from now correct?
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just for clarification forged aluminium is what most custom wheels are made from now correct?
For 45 bucks a piece you are looking at nothing but cast aluminum. You aint gettin' forged wheels made for 45 bucks.
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$45 a wheel for magnesium? You're out of your mind. You're better off with aluminum.
Seriously am I?
Have you done the research?
Do you know the quantity Im looking for?
I know alot, i mean a shitload about Logistics work ,import/export...pretty much anything that involves moving products. Ive lol pretty much been gathering knowledge from a very young age.

LOL Im sorry but yes Magnesium alloy wheels are ludacris for what im suggesting $45/wheel is nuts from a start off point of view but its not impossible.

The whole concept of it being suitable for the application. Is it possible to be used the way im going to be using it for. Im heavily researching and doing my due diligence before doing something stupid.

Is $25/wheel for aluminum alloy too much to dream of? for 22.5x 8.5 or 22.5x10?

Correct me if im wrong because I dont know 100%, but I cant find a big enough reason why Magnesium alloys cant be used in this enviorment except for the fact for tire blowouts and fires. Which are non-issue most of the time because normal operations/policy will still make drivers and company maintenance check up tire and rims. Only thing im worried about is accidental blowouts which might cause a fire, even then these metals dont heat up as much as steel or aluminum. If they are safe enough for racing, why are they not safe enough for street use.

Once again all criticism, issues, or questions that might arise will be a great help.
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Seriously am I?
Have you done the research?
Do you know the quantity Im looking for?
I know alot, i mean a shitload about Logistics work ,import/export...pretty much anything that involves moving products. Ive lol pretty much been gathering knowledge from a very young age.

LOL Im sorry but yes Magnesium alloy wheels are ludacris for what im suggesting $45/wheel is nuts from a start off point of view but its not impossible.
The raw material alone easily exceeds $45/wheel at any quantity with a wheel of that size. That does not even factor in machining and post-machining costs.

If you provided more details to the application I am sure I could convince you to go with aluminum instead.
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Seriously am I?
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Do you know the quantity Im looking for?
I know alot, i mean a shitload about Logistics work ,import/export...pretty much anything that involves moving products. Ive lol pretty much been gathering knowledge from a very young age.

LOL Im sorry but yes Magnesium alloy wheels are ludacris for what im suggesting $45/wheel is nuts from a start off point of view but its not impossible.

The whole concept of it being suitable for the application. Is it possible to be used the way im going to be using it for. Im heavily researching and doing my due diligence before doing something stupid.

Is $25/wheel for aluminum alloy too much to dream of? for 22.5x 8.5 or 22.5x10?

Correct me if im wrong because I dont know 100%, but I cant find a big enough reason why Magnesium alloys cant be used in this enviorment except for the fact for tire blowouts and fires. Which are non-issue most of the time because normal operations/policy will still make drivers and company maintenance check up tire and rims. Only thing im worried about is accidental blowouts which might cause a fire, even then these metals dont heat up as much as steel or aluminum. If they are safe enough for racing, why are they not safe enough for street use.

Once again all criticism, issues, or questions that might arise will be a great help.
You seem to lack some serious engineering understanding. Name some things that come with magnesium wheels...I'll help you...Porsche Carerra GT, Ducati bikes, etc. Notice anything? They are all lightweight. Having an escalade roll on 22"s with rubberband tires will instantly annihilate the wheels. You will also not be able to get a forged wheel for less than $200 a wheel, and a cast 22 will crack instantly.

As for the rest of your questions...ever been to a racetrack? Not too many potholes, manhole covers, debris, road plates etc on racetracks...
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You seem to lack some serious engineering understanding. Name some things that come with magnesium wheels...I'll help you...Porsche Carerra GT, Ducati bikes, etc. Notice anything? They are all lightweight. Having an escalade roll on 22"s with rubberband tires will instantly annihilate the wheels. You will also not be able to get a forged wheel for less than $200 a wheel, and a cast 22 will crack instantly.

As for the rest of your questions...ever been to a racetrack? Not too many potholes, manhole covers, debris, road plates etc on racetracks...
Back off dude. He's in logistics.
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Back off dude. He's in logistics.
I'm just curious what on earth possessed him to become the new Sprewell.
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You seem to lack some serious engineering understanding. Name some things that come with magnesium wheels...I'll help you...Porsche Carerra GT, Ducati bikes, etc. Notice anything? They are all lightweight. Having an escalade roll on 22"s with rubberband tires will instantly annihilate the wheels. You will also not be able to get a forged wheel for less than $200 a wheel, and a cast 22 will crack instantly.

As for the rest of your questions...ever been to a racetrack? Not too many potholes, manhole covers, debris, road plates etc on racetracks...
Im going to say please dont post anything in my threads if you are just going to assume ****. Who said anything about an escalade, i know i wasnt clear on what it will be used for, but wow just wow.

You put out some numbers there, (NO IDEA where you got those from, maybe your ass or unknown source)You will also not be able to get a forged wheel for less than $200 a wheel, and a cast 22 will crack instantly.


Mr. Engineer, im not an engineer im honestly a retard when it comes these things. So answer this what are the properties of Magnesium and Aluminum, when it comes down to wheels. Any wheel racing, or anything? How much stronger is a mag vs aluminum vs steel? Heat resistance? and longevity,how long will one wheel last (mileage)
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So answer this what are the properties of Magnesium and Aluminum, when it comes down to wheels. Any wheel racing, or anything? How much stronger is a mag vs aluminum vs steel? Heat resistance? and longevity,how long will one wheel last (mileage)
Ask this guy, he's good at gathering knowledge. I bet he's awesome at using Google too.

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