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Old 01-03-2013, 11:08 PM   #1
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Psychological capacity to own a gun?

Should there be a requirement? What do you think the requirements or procedure should be if there was a law on this? Do you think under certain conditions where an owner has shown they were not psychologically capable, a firearm should be taken from them?
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:18 PM   #2
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What's the scale?

We live in a judicial society where peeing on a wall while drunk makes you a sex offender and talking to a professional to deal with the grief of losing a loved one 302's you.

IMHO, if you are deemed mentally or physically dangerous enough to not be allowed to own a firearm, you should be locked behind bars.

If you are deemed safe enough to be able to integrate into society... You should have ALL rights restored
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:27 PM   #3
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What's the scale?

We live in a judicial society where peeing on a wall while drunk makes you a sex offender and talking to a professional to deal with the grief of losing a loved one 302's you.

IMHO, if you are deemed mentally or physically dangerous enough to not be allowed to own a firearm, you should be locked behind bars.

If you are deemed safe enough to be able to integrate into society... You should have ALL rights restored
Agreed. I would only amend that those with a violence related felony should not be allowed. Same way child sex offenders can't live near schools.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:30 PM   #4
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Agreed. I would only amend that those with a violence related felony should not be allowed. Same way child sex offenders can't live near schools.
Why? If they are dangerous enough to be considered a threat, why released?

As far as sex offenders not being allowed to live near schools... Another genius liberal law. Cause they can't drive a mile
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Why? If they are dangerous enough to be considered a threat, why released?

As far as sex offenders not being allowed to live near schools... Another genius liberal law. Cause they can't drive a mile
Because the world isn't black and white, but shades of grey.

I know you like hypothetical situations, so what if you have a war veteran with post traumatic stress disorder that is triggered by holding firearms. The person doesn't have an urge to kill anybody, but becomes so distraught they have an urge to shoot with no regards for other peoples' safety. Would you put this otherwise peaceful war veteran that risked his life for our country behind bars for the rest of his life?
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That's ridiculous
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That's ridiculous
Yes, and your hypothetical situations of men going into grocery stores and executing everyone one by one and you having a gun will save the day isn't ridiculous.

So by your reasoning, we should give 3 year old children and mentally handicapped people guns because they aren't in jail?
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Because the world isn't black and white, but shades of grey.

I know you like hypothetical situations, so what if you have a war veteran with post traumatic stress disorder that is triggered by holding firearms. The person doesn't have an urge to kill anybody, but becomes so distraught they have an urge to shoot with no regards for other peoples' safety. Would you put this otherwise peaceful war veteran that risked his life for our country behind bars for the rest of his life?
There is validity to your point. A Vietnam vet might be all "normal" but when handed an AR, might have a flood of memories drive him crazy and he starts shooting all Asians. Possible? Absolutely. Anything that can be reasonably (legislatively) done about it? Nope.
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Anything that can be reasonably (legislatively) done about it? Nope.
Ban Vietnam Vets.
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Why? If they are dangerous enough to be considered a threat, why released?

As far as sex offenders not being allowed to live near schools... Another genius liberal law. Cause they can't drive a mile
I know a woman who is mentally insane.

Her "Thing" is to go out literally every night and have unprotected sex until she gets pregnant and has a child. Then, since shes a drug abusing unemployed piece of trash, Social services shows up and takes the child. Next night she is riding the next cock.

I believe she is on her 4th child.

She has obvious mental issues but she cannot be forced to go into a mental institution.

Now she isn't physical dangerous to other people but she is obviously messed up. Should she own a gun?
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I know a woman who is mentally insane.

Her "Thing" is to go out literally every night and have unprotected sex until she gets pregnant and has a child. Then, since shes a drug abusing unemployed piece of trash, Social services shows up and takes the child. Next night she is riding the next cock.

I believe she is on her 4th child.

She has obvious mental issues but she cannot be forced to go into a mental institution.

Now she isn't physical dangerous to other people but she is obviously messed up. Should she own a gun?
Yea... things might just "work themselves out"
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I know a woman who is mentally insane.

Her "Thing" is to go out literally every night and have unprotected sex until she gets pregnant and has a child. Then, since shes a drug abusing unemployed piece of trash, Social services shows up and takes the child. Next night she is riding the next cock.

I believe she is on her 4th child.

She has obvious mental issues but she cannot be forced to go into a mental institution.

Now she isn't physical dangerous to other people but she is obviously messed up. Should she own a gun?
Blame the legal system, not the gun. The day she tried to give away her second child, she should have been charged and imprisoned....dare to dream.
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Why? If they are dangerous enough to be considered a threat, why released?

As far as sex offenders not being allowed to live near schools... Another genius liberal law. Cause they can't drive a mile
Temptation and ease of access. In both cases.

I'd prefer to see child sex offenders subject to considerably harsher punishment. But that's another topic...
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There are ways to look at mental illness and evaluate it. The problem is just like everything else, in that we have to balance freedom with the repercussions of misuse of those freedoms. There are ways to help resolve this issue, just like with other constitutional issues, but they are ways that we as a country refuse to take steps towards because we have a bunch of pussies and assholes running things. Time for a few dicks.
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If someone is too dangerous to own a gun they are too dangerous to be in society considering cars, hammers and fists all kill more people and are all readily accessible
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Personally, I think there should be an intelligence test to procreate as well. I think dumb/useless people cause more damage to society over time than guns, booze, or felons do. But that will never happen
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There isn't a test to distinguish a killer or not. Completely sane people have a lapse a judgment and kill people all the time. We just need to focus on making mental health centers more accessible and affordable. I know there's plenty of psychology majors without work that could help with that.
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There isn't a test to distinguish a killer or not. Completely sane people have a lapse a judgment and kill people all the time. We just need to focus on making mental health centers more accessible and affordable. I know there's plenty of psychology majors without work that could help with that.
But then like JJ said, once you seek any help (even talking about your girlfriend and relationship) will earn you a record of "mental help" and might disqualify you from owning a gun. Not everyone who seeks "mental help" is unfit to own a gun. IMHO, they are weak, but not crazy.
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Where is the source stating you can't go see a psychologist and buy a gun after?
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Where is the source stating you can't go see a psychologist and buy a gun after?
I meant I don't want it to BECOME like that...that anyone who seeks any form of "mental help" will be deemed as a nut by the libs.
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