Why *not* buy an M3 vert?

Noticed in another thread a mention that M3 convertibles don't have the same subframe issues as the coupes?

Which got me to thinking. I've always with the convertibles I've driven, mostly crappy rental cars, but I've been happy to pop the top even when it's cold or for a short ride. (I use my sunroof constantly in my wife's car and my old e46 wagon)

So what are the drawbacks/tradeoffs of an M3 vert?
Do they develop squeaks and rattles and cowl shake?
Is the windscreen well designed for top down highway driving?
Is the top well designed and reliable?
What's it like to drive with the top *up?*

Verts are for chicks and cali guys.!

Originally Posted by avincent52

So what are the drawbacks/tradeoffs of an M3 vert? Not permitted in wild animal parks and some racing events.
Do they develop squeaks and rattles and cowl shake? Yes on squeaks, not much on cowl shake
Is the windscreen well designed for top down highway driving? Yes, whether you mean the front windshield or the optional wind deflector above the back seat.
Is the top well designed and reliable? It's a good design but complex. This forum has been invaluable in diagnosing. I've been able to solve all problems on my own.
What's it like to drive with the top *up?*Fewer squeaks, too dark, glass rear window makes it tolerable. Be skilled at mirror usage as you'll have a big blind spot.

Originally Posted by Arock1092

Verts are for chicks and cali guys.!

Absolutely

People don't like verts because they are slower for weighing ~400 extra lbs.

The e64 m3 verts are great looking... but very heavy and not allowed on track.

Originally Posted by DonovanM3

The e64 m3 verts are great looking... but very heavy and not allowed on track.

You can get them on track. You just need to find an organization and track that accepts verts.

Originally Posted by Alan

You can get them on track. You just need to find an organization and track that accepts verts.

Bingo.. none that I have been with let any verts on...cept for autocross..

people don't like verts because they are insecure and have small wieners.

Slower than coupes.

Originally Posted by B_Cyrus

people don't like verts because they are insecure and have small wieners.

This....

that aside tho, its(the soft top) one for thing to break, but one less... dont be fooled tho, verts do have floor failure, its just very very rare.

think of them as a very very very big sunroof. If youre insecure, then dont get one, but other than that, theyre great, especially when modded. This is my 1st vert, and man do i love this thing, i can see why those that have verts always get another... the extra weight of the vert, well honeslty, i dont notice it, doesnt affect handling at my pace on the streets, and i believe the difference in 0-60 times is like 0.2 seconds, do you really thinkin youre gonna notice that?
Id like to track it one day, but ive yet to find a place that allows them... other than that tho... whats not to love. and chicks dig em... ghey dudes too, it seems, but thats neither here nor there.

Originally Posted by B_Cyrus

people don't like verts because they are insecure and have small wieners.

How does having a vert make you insecure or have a small wiener? I think it's quite the opposite if you think about it.

Originally Posted by Sxry666

How does having a vert make you insecure or have a small wiener? I think it's quite the opposite if you think about it.

Think you've misread his statement

Love my vert. The extra 400 lbs is totally worth being able to drop the top in the summer :-)

Originally Posted by morningisbad

Love my vert. The extra 400 lbs is totally worth being able to drop the top in the summer :-)

+100!

I was looking for a coupe but came across a great deal on a vert that I couldn't pass up.

I like the vert M3 a lot actually. I live in an area that gets ridiculously hot in the summer so being able to put the top down is great.

They are slower than coupes and heavier but it is of no concern to me. I'm not one to bash and rag on my car just because its a sports car.

Nothing wrong with owning a vert. Plus hardtop looks really good.

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Buy a vert if that's what YOU want and Fuk everbody esle who hates on you!

Seems to me that them not being tracked is a good thing--at least if you're buying.
And I don't know what the speed limits are where you live, but most places I've driven a 325 wagon was plenty fast enough to lose your license.

Cleaned it up today and changed all drivetrain fluids.
LOVE this thing...

Having a sweet loud exhaust makes it even more enjoyable too.

Originally Posted by Snik

Cleaned it up today and changed all drivetrain fluids.
LOVE this thing...

Having a sweet loud exhaust makes it even more enjoyable too.

+1 on the loud exhaust. Down shift in a tunnel and you will se why I got the vert.
also my vert is faster then my friends hardtop and all I have is intake and exhaust.

If you live in a place were there's a lot of sun go for it. If I didn't live in the San Fernando Valley forget about it lol

Ive owned a 2002 coupe for 5 years and a 2006 for about 1 year.


I LOVE my vert.
the convo for 400lbs is irrelevant unless you want to be speed-racer 24/7 with manual seats, rear seat delete, door panels gutted and etc...

no need for it.

vert all the way, and especially a 6 speed