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Old 01-20-2013, 01:05 PM   #1
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Considering a 135i need opinions..

I think its time for me to move on to a 135i but want some opinions and feedback, if I can.


How does the back seat size compare to the e46 coupe? I use it here and there, but not a ton.

I read the automatic does a pretty good job of being in manual mode
or just put your foot on the gas ........opinions?

Bad idea to get the car with 80k miles OR what is the highest mileage that should be considered since it has turbos etc.....

Leave the looks out of it since that is subjective

I was considering the 335i but reviews say it is a little more bloaty to drive where the 135i's more like the e46 m3 in terms of driivng fun.

Is it a bad idea to go to a 135i instead of a 335i coming from a 330ci.


Did reseach but wanted to start my own thread from e46'ers

Thanks for input.


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Old 01-20-2013, 01:33 PM   #2
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I think its time for me to move on to a 135i but want some opinions and feedback, if I can.


How does the back seat size compare to the e46 coupe? I use it here and there, but not a ton.

Bad idea to get the car with 80k miles OR what is the highest mileage that should be considered since it has turbos etc.....

I was considering the 335i but reviews say it is a little more bloaty to drive where the 135i's more like the e46 m3 in terms of driivng fun.

Is it a bad idea to go to a 135i instead of a 335i coming from a 330ci.


Tom
I'll respond to the things I know...

Back seat: E82 1 Series backseat size is just big enough that it shouldn't be classified a 2+2. It is most definitely smaller than the E46s back seat and MUCH smaller than the E92s (which is downright comfortable if you're 6' 2" or less).

The 135 is a very fun car to drive- but not in the same way an M3 is. Have you driven both? What makes the 1 fun is that it's small. It isn't as precise as the M3 (in 135i guise) and it understeers a lot more than the M3 (E46 or E92).

A 135i owner on here says he's getting rid of his at 80k because the turbos go bad around that time. I know they can fail at higher mileages. If they have been replaced or the car is CPO it's not as big of a concern... IIRC the parts can be had for around $1400 but it is not a fun job to DIY...

The E92 is an imprecise car and it is also big if you really like tearing up the twisties, so I see where you're coming from there...

Having said all that- have you considered a used E90/92 M3? They are the most reliable cars of that whole generation hands down. The M3 is lighter than the 335i, and has things like an Aluminum rear subframe, LSD, and thousands of dollars worth of upgraded suspension components that can cause a handling-driven 335i owner to weep. The suspension differences between the E90/92 non-Ms and M3 is much bigger than the difference between the E46 M3 and non-M.

Best of luck!
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:42 PM   #3
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I'll respond to the things I know...

Back seat: E82 1 Series backseat size is just big enough that it shouldn't be classified a 2+2. It is most definitely smaller than the E46s back seat and MUCH smaller than the E92s (which is downright comfortable if you're 6' 2" or less).

The 135 is a very fun car to drive- but not in the same way an M3 is. Have you driven both? What makes the 1 fun is that it's small. It isn't as precise as the M3 (in 135i guise) and it understeers a lot more than the M3 (E46 or E92).

A 135i owner on here says he's getting rid of his at 80k because the turbos go bad around that time. I know they can fail at higher mileages. If they have been replaced or the car is CPO it's not as big of a concern... IIRC the parts can be had for around $1400 but it is not a fun job to DIY...

The E92 is an imprecise car and it is also big if you really like tearing up the twisties, so I see where you're coming from there...

Having said all that- have you considered a used E90/92 M3? They are the most reliable cars of that whole generation hands down. The M3 is lighter than the 335i, and has things like an Aluminum rear subframe, LSD, and thousands of dollars worth of upgraded suspension components that can cause a handling-driven 335i owner to weep. The suspension differences between the E90/92 non-Ms and M3 is much bigger than the difference between the E46 M3 and non-M.

Best of luck!

Thanks for the comments. Right now before I go around test driving cars and dealing with sales people I want to get some ideas of how it will compare to what I have now etc..

The back seat thing is a bummer. Me and two buddies went to vegas in my coupe and it was comfy in the back and I am 6'2" My other friend 6'87" not so much.

The 80k mile car I have seen is 18ish but it is an 09 so if it they are highway miles it seems it would be less stress on the turbos.

An m3 is great I am sure, but the gas mileage and price tag is too much for me right now.

Sounds like the auto would suck, so that makes finding a car even more difficult unfortunatly.

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Old 01-20-2013, 07:51 PM   #4
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My girlfriend as a 2011 DCT 135i and I drive a 330ci ZHP. Honestly, it's a great car, but I concur with the statements made above. The fit and finish of the post-e46 generation of cars just doesn't seem there.

The 135 is wicked fast, but the steering feels a little heavier then my ZHP. On the plus side, the dash is very driver oriented and if I had to pick a newer, non-M, BMW, the 135 would be the one. Don't even get me started about the run flat tires.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:31 PM   #5
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Either get a 2011+ with a dual clutch automatic or a manual. The torque converter automatic isn't bad, but at the end of the day its nothing like a manual.

An E82 with 80k miles is going to be a $18k car, but any E92 M3 is going to be a $35k car... not really interchangeable
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