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Old 02-07-2013, 12:48 AM   #1
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Do you instantly judge people by their grammar?

In general, it's easy to judge one's intelligence immediately by their grammar; the way they form sentences, use punctuation, use capitalization, spelling, etc.

but ive defanitely seen ppl who are realy smart in person and no a lot but still have bad grammer when writing. or dumbasses who use fancy words to try too sound smart.

Do you instantly judge people and look up to them or down on them merely based on whether they're using big fancy words versus not knowing the difference between there/their/they're?

or do you try to look past there weak education and see if their good problem solvers and just smart in a different way?
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Absolutely. Individuals who speak like "thugs" disqualify themselves as educated, thinking people. I immediately assume that they grew up with a lack of influence from positive, caring parents (or caretakers) and an excessive influence from garbage media like MTV.

I don't care what color they are, what god they pray to, or where their parents originated... if they speak like an idiot, they likely are just that.
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Absolutely. Individuals who speak like "thugs" disqualify themselves as educated, thinking people. I immediately assume that they grew up with a lack of influence from positive, caring parents (or caretakers) and an excessive influence from garbage media like MTV.

I don't care what color they are, what god they pray to, or where their parents originated... if they speak like an idiot, they likely are just that.
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Absolutely. Individuals who speak like "thugs" disqualify themselves as educated, thinking people. I immediately assume that they grew up with a lack of influence from positive, caring parents (or caretakers) and an excessive influence from garbage media like MTV.

I don't care what color they are, what god they pray to, or where their parents originated... if they speak like an idiot, they likely are just that.
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Absolutely. Individuals who speak like "thugs" disqualify themselves as educated, thinking people. I immediately assume that they grew up with a lack of influence from positive, caring parents (or caretakers) and an excessive influence from garbage media like MTV.

I don't care what color they are, what god they pray to, or where their parents originated... if they speak like an idiot, they likely are just that.
But what if you just so happen to run into a person that speaks like a thug and is brilliant in math or physics.

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Absolutely. Individuals who speak like "thugs" disqualify themselves as educated, thinking people. I immediately assume that they grew up with a lack of influence from positive, caring parents (or caretakers) and an excessive influence from garbage media like MTV.

I don't care what color they are, what god they pray to, or where their parents originated... if they speak like an idiot, they likely are just that.
Not always true, I have a friend that speak with a street slang, but yet has a 4.0 gpa. In addition, I have many peers in pharmacy school that do not articulate themselves as well as other pharmacy students but perform better academically.
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But what if you just so happen to run into a person that speaks like a thug and is brilliant in math or physics.
They can still be a bright individual... but they're poorly choosing to express themselves in a fashion that immediately will disqualify them in many people's minds. Call it stuffy but you set your own bar VERY low when you come across like a "thug".
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Not always true, I have a friend that speak with a street slang, but yet has a 4.0 gpa. In addition, I have many peers in pharmacy school that do not articulate themselves as well as other pharmacy students but perform better academically.
You're in school... in the working world, you're buddy with the 4.0 GPA will have a VERY hard time getting a job is he can't learn to properly express himself in a mature fashion. I'm involved in all new sales hires at my company and can assure you that anyone who walked in using the work yo (or any variation) would immediately get laughed out of the building... and there is nothing wrong with that as proper English/grammar a mandatory qualification of a worthwhile candidate.

Note: This doesn't mean that they are a good/bad person.. but it immediately leads me to make judgements on their intelligence, maturity, and their social placement. If you think Jay-Z speaks like a thug in business meetings, you're terribly incorrect.
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They can still be a bright individual... but they're poorly choosing to express themselves in a fashion that immediately will disqualify them in many people's minds. Call it stuffy but you set your own bar VERY low when you come across like a "thug".

You're in school... in the working world, you're buddy with the 4.0 GPA will have a VERY hard time getting a job is he can't learn to properly express himself in a mature fashion. I'm involved in all new sales hires at my company and can assure you that anyone who walked in using the work yo (or any variation) would immediately get laughed out of the building... and there is nothing wrong with that as proper English/grammar a mandatory qualification of a worthwhile candidate.

Note: This doesn't mean that they are a good/bad person.. but it immediately leads me to make judgements on their intelligence, maturity, and their social placement. If you think Jay-Z speaks like a thug in business meetings, you're terribly incorrect.
Do you know Jay Z?
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In general, it's easy to judge one's intelligence immediately by their grammar; the way they form sentences, use punctuation, use capitalization, spelling, etc.

but ive defanitely seen ppl who are realy smart in person and no a lot but still have bad grammer when writing. or dumbasses who use fancy words to try too sound smart.

Do you instantly judge people and look up to them or down on them merely based on whether they're using big fancy words versus not knowing the difference between there/their/they're?

or do you try to look past there weak education and see if their good problem solvers and just smart in a different way?
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Basically, I've known a lot of smart people that couldn't spell or form complete sentences for the life of them. People get called out and overlooked for having bad grammar online all the time, but it's not so cut and dried.
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Basically, I've known a lot of smart people that couldn't spell or form complete sentences for the life of them. People get called out and overlooked for having bad grammar online all the time, but it's not so cut and dried.
It depends on your industry. Do you work with engineers/scientists? Lots of them are very intelligent but can't write worth a crap.

If you working in finance/HR/business or something along those lines, the people you speak of with poor grammar are actually stupid.

And yes I judge people by their grammar.

There was some study (don't know where I saw it or its reliability) that said something along the lines of: a majority of people end up with someone with similar vocal skills. It also mentioned that they were comfortable texting with similar short hand.

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There are a lot of Indians and Chinese who are extremely smart but has bad grammar and accent. Doesn't mean much so no I don't judge.
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kuksul... first up, you're trolling as cpnardi already caught on.

Second, yes, I do make judgements based on grammar and the use of language - not just written but spoken as well. From what I've found it's not so much about intelligence as it is about the ability to express an idea or make a point.

And there's a difference between "book smart" and "street smart". One doesn't function well in the other's world. A person who is both book and street smart is a more unusual find and seem to do quite well, IMHO.

YMMV.

And to be totally honest, it can be more of an irritation than a judgement however I do use it help form an idea of the person but not their "intelligence". What was that quote from Einstein? Something about a fish and climbing a tree?
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In general, it's easy to judge one's intelligence immediately by their grammar; the way they form sentences, use punctuation, use capitalization, spelling, etc.

but ive defanitely seen ppl who are realy smart in person and no a lot but still have bad grammer when writing. or dumbasses who use fancy words to try too sound smart.

Do you instantly judge people and look up to them or down on them merely based on whether they're using big fancy words versus not knowing the difference between there/their/they're?

or do you try to look past there weak education and see if their good problem solvers and just smart in a different way?


Grammar can be based on someone's cultural environment or education background. When some are set in a learning environment they tend to reference real life experience instead of learning the rules for proper grammar. Have you ever heard of the expression "You talk a good game" ? Anyone can speak proper but if you can back that up with some knowledge, then it means nothing. Also, it is a known fact that America has been one sided for years on education. So much so that, you can meet someone who has a 5th grade education but still has a lot of knowledge in a field that they are passion about. I was watching a documentary on George Washington Carver. He had no formal education prior to college. What he did has was a thirst for knowledge. This guy invented stuff back in 1890s that we still use today.

Plus in America we don't speak or write English. Its a form of English. Over 400 million versions of the "English" language. Pop culture and immigrants changes the way we "speak". Again, for this reason you can judge someone on the grammar (verbally or literally)


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Grammar can be based on someone's cultural environment or education background. When some are set in a learning environment they tend to reference real life experience instead of learning the rules for proper grammar. Have you ever heard of the expression "You talk a good game" ? Anyone can speak proper but if you can back that up with some knowledge, then it means nothing. Also, it is a known fact that America has been one sided for years on education. So much so that, you can meet someone who has a 5th grade education but still has a lot of knowledge in a field that they are passion about. I was watching a documentary on George Washington Carver. He had no formal education prior to college. What he did has was a thirst for knowledge. This guy invented stuff back in 1890s that we still use today.

Plus in America we don't speak or write English. Its a form of English. Over 400 million versions of the "English" language. Pop culture and immigrants changes the way we "speak". Again, for this reason you can judge someone on the grammar (verbally or literally)

I totally agree.
I judge people more on posts like this. This is complete gibberish. I went camping this summer with some guys who eat psychedelics for a living (literally) - and at one point one of them had taken 30 hits of acid and was frying off the charts . . and the stuff coming out of his mouth was far more lucid and logical than what saxual328ci just wrote.
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