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Old 02-13-2013, 08:43 AM   #1
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Exclamation Obama wants an increase in the minimum hourly wage from the current $7.25 to $9

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Old 02-13-2013, 08:45 AM   #2
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:48 AM   #3
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Poor people making more money. Isn't this want everyone wants? Now they make more so they can get off government assistance.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:53 AM   #6
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Fvck poor people.

Let 'em die!
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Fvck poor people.

Let 'em die!
I was poor once then I got a paper route when I was 11 helped my mom, then I got a work permit and worked at the local grocery store from 14-15 then at 16 I got a job at Toys R us at all times while helping my mom. And so on and so forth..

We were on welfare, mother was disabled with 3 kids, father paid child support. Mother was off welfare after we turned 18, father then had to pay the government supplementary income above and beyond child support order.

Here in Massachusetts guys pay the state back for the welfare women use, now known as Department of Transitional Assistance.

I was poor once, I was a kid and didn't wish to die.
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I was poor once then I got a paper route when I was 11 helped my mom, then I got a work permit and worked at the local grocery store from 14-15 then at 16 I got a job at Toys R us at all times while helping my mom. And so on and so forth..

We were on welfare, mother was disabled with 3 kids, father paid child support. Mother was off welfare after we turned 18, father then had to pay the government supplementary income above and beyond child support order.

Here in Massachusetts guys pay the state back for the welfare women use, now known as Department of Transitional Assistance.

I was poor once, I was a kid and didn't wish to die.
A lot of us were poor or low income at one point or another in our lives and wanted to live. Don't tell Lair that.
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A lot of us were poor or low income at one point or another in our lives and wanted to live. Don't tell Lair that.
I think its a reference to gate community member Chase and the many disparaging comments he made especially about letting them die in the streets.
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I think its a reference to gate community member Chase and the many disparaging comments he made especially about letting them die in the streets.
This is such an arrogant, obnoxious comment. I had loving parents who gave me the best they could, taught me proper morals, put a golf club in my hand, and allowed me to earn a partial scholarship to a top tier school. I graduated with honors from that program and took a job in SALE with a tech startup from Norway. I'm not in a family business nor was I ever handed a paycheck... My entire work life has been paid primarily off COMMISSION which is entirely a result of hard work.

For people to sit there and discount my views (which are founded in very basic free market principles) simply based on my upbringing or parents... now THAT is bigoted.

Apparently discounting those abusing welfare is elitist... but discounting those who have worked their a$$ off to make something of themselves.. that's perfectly fine.
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I think its a reference to gate community member Chase and the many disparaging comments he made especially about letting them die in the streets.
This is such an arrogant, obnoxious comment. I had loving parents who gave me the best they could, taught me proper morals, put a golf club in my hand, and allowed me to earn a partial scholarship to a top tier school. I graduated with honors from that program and took a job in SALE with a tech startup from Norway. I'm not in a family business nor was I ever handed a paycheck... My entire work life has been paid primarily off COMMISSION which is entirely a result of hard work.

For people to sit there and discount my views (which are founded in very basic free market principles) simply based on my upbringing or parents... now THAT is bigoted.

Apparently discounting those abusing welfare is elitist... but discounting those who have worked their a$$ off to make something of themselves.. that's perfectly fine.
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I was poor once then I got a paper route when I was 11 helped my mom, then I got a work permit and worked at the local grocery store from 14-15 then at 16 I got a job at Toys R us at all times while helping my mom. And so on and so forth..

We were on welfare, mother was disabled with 3 kids, father paid child support. Mother was off welfare after we turned 18, father then had to pay the government supplementary income above and beyond child support order.

Here in Massachusetts guys pay the state back for the welfare women use, now known as Department of Transitional Assistance.

I was poor once, I was a kid and didn't wish to die.
Are you new?

That was straight sarcasm. It's the answer that most modern republicans have for any question about the poor or our nation's uninsured.
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Force employers to pay more wages = Less employees

Sounds like a good plan. I can't believe how quickly I have grown to loathe this current administration.
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Force employers to pay more wages = Less employees

Sounds like a good plan. I can't believe how quickly I have grown to loathe this current administration.
pay them alittle more to work or pay them to not work at all.
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lol, like going from $7.25 Federal minimum to $9.00 will allow people to buy homes, buy $25k cars or get off DTA.

Here in Mass our minimum is $8.00, 14+ year olds are making $8.50 at grocery stores, buying their own little things so i guess it helps some kids/teenagers but not a full blown family. $15,080 a year to $18,720 is not going to get a full family off DTA.

Let me add to say that Massachsuetts wanted to raise it to $10.00.

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Corporations in this country already pay some of the highest taxes. I'm sure this will bode well.
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Corporations in this country already pay some of the highest taxes. I'm sure this will bode well.
They're paying the lowest effective rates in 40 years.

According to the Wall Street Journal's recent study of Congressional Budget Office numbers, corporations are paying an effective rate of 12.1%, the lowest in at least 40 years.

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They're paying the lowest effective rates in 40 years.

According to the Wall Street Journal's recent study of Congressional Budget Office numbers, corporations are paying an effective rate of 12.1%, the lowest in at least 40 years.
Read more: http://business.time.com/2012/02/06/...#ixzz2KrByE9Y3

The article and your graphs don't add-up. It says our average, effective tax rate is 25.6% (outside of the current, stimulus-induced tax breaks) over the last 30 years. But your graphs say our average tax rate in ~13%. Do you know the reason for that discrepancy?

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So why are some of the biggest and most powerful entities in our society getting away with paying so little? The story is complicated, but the biggest factor in the recent collapse in corporate tax receipts appears to be a set of tax breaks built into recent stimulus efforts.

In 2010 and 2011, companies were allowed to deduct the full cost of the purchases of new equipment, while normally these costs would be expensed over several years. In 2012, this deduction will go down to 50% and be eliminated altogether thereafter, causing the effective tax rate to return to roughly the 25.6% average effective tax rate corporations paid since the late 1980s, according to CBO forecasts.

Also, I don't have a good solution for increasing wealth in the country. I asked Hayabua many time for his input. He doesn't seem to have any either. I would love to have a nation where EVERYONE was wealthy. I just don't have any bright ideas on how to make it happen. And as I have calculated many times, if you take our nations wealth and distribute it equally, it is approximately $55k/year for everyone. That is hardly wealthy. Maybe we have too many people for our current economy? That is sort of a joke - but maybe we can't support our population with our current GDP? Did anyone ever think of it that way?
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