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Old 08-04-2013, 11:38 PM   #1
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Too cheap to pave driveway. Bought 6000 pavers instead. UPDATED!

UPDATED PICS BELOW! FINISHED!

In case anyone is considering a new driveway, I wanted to share my latest adventure.

I'm in the northeast, just got a few quotes for the driveway to be redone... 7500 to get it paved. 10,000 for concrete. As someone who does absolutely all of their own work, paying someone close to what I paid for both our BMWs made me sick to my stomach. Also, the idea of the paving sinking with time, or the concrete heaving from the frost or cracking, I refused.

Then I found the bricks on sale, and have taken on a ridiculous task for one person alone. Rented an excavator, hired a guy with a dump, and I was off to work. I'm at 85% done lying pavers now. I took a week off from work and put in about 50 hours work thus far. Another 20 hours I presume.

New driveway is looking to run me about $4200 all in, huge biceps, and a broken back.

Only thing left after I finish is to run a compactor over the pavers with the sand to straighten them out and prep for vehicles. Will post finished pics.

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Update: Finished two weeks ago. Sealed it, that was $200 more. I love it. I love the way the car looks on it. I love the red. Its got some waves, and its not perfect. No one but me will notice, but in the end, I'd do it again in a heartbeat (luckily I don't have to.)

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Old 08-04-2013, 11:56 PM   #2
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Too cheap to pave driveway. Bought 6000 pavers instead. Pics.

good job man. That looks like a HELL of a lot of work. Looks great so far!


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Old 08-05-2013, 12:01 AM   #3
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good job man. That looks like a HELL of a lot of work. Looks great so far!


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Thanks. Hoping to inspire others, that is if anyone else is dumb enough to spend their vacation time like this. By the way, in case anyone is afraid of an excavator I taught myself in my driveway, as the wife glared at me from the kitchen 2 feet away.

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Old 08-05-2013, 03:40 AM   #4
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You must have some crazy concrete people if it is more expensive than pavers.

Good for you for DIY, but was it really worth it?

$7500 - $500 min discount to close deal = $7000 - $4200 = $2800

$2800 / 80 hours = $35 per hour and no warranty.

Did you see what labor would have cost by itself?

I doubt any paver company would have passed on $1000 labor for one day of work for 4-5 guys making $10 hour.

Regardless, congrats!
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:55 AM   #6
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You must have some crazy concrete people if it is more expensive than pavers.

Good for you for DIY, but was it really worth it?

$7500 - $500 min discount to close deal = $7000 - $4200 = $2800

$2800 / 80 hours = $35 per hour and no warranty.

Did you see what labor would have cost by itself?

I doubt any paver company would have passed on $1000 labor for one day of work for 4-5 guys making $10 hour.

Regardless, congrats!
To get it paved was about $6 per foot, concrete was about $8 per foot, pavers were about $10. I got multiple quotes.

I came in at about $3 plus my labor. My time isn't worth much, I'm a lousy worker. Don't really need a warranty for a brick driveway.

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Looks great, nice work man! The way I look at it is the price does not really matter because to me, the pavers look much better than tar or concrete from a curb appeal perspective.

I did a patio a few years ago that was about 35x25. The day they dropped the 4 pallets of pavers off at my house, I just about had a heart attack (I had to haul them up 6 at a time from the alley, which is 100 feet away and up a flight of stairs.) imagining how long it was going to take, but it turned out great.

BTW- You will be very happy once you add sand to lock them in place and run the compactor over the bricks as it really levels them out, giving it a very professional look.
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Thanks man! Looking forward to compacting and adding sand.
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love posts like this...Im a DIY guy also and I can totally understand where your coming from...Just wondering was a permit required for this and if so how easy was it to get? I got a bunch of stuff I need to do around my house but since I have some noisy neighbors I cant even pick up a rock at my house without them calling the town requesting a permit
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Thanks Custom. no permit required in my town. I live next door to the town clerk so I had to make sure. We made sure to work only M-F 8-5 so to not piss off the neighbors too much. Today was pretty bad when I started using the saw to cut bricks. Its done though, starting to lay sand tomorrow.

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Looks much better than concrete, I applaud you for doing the work. Even if I had the skills, I would not want to do that myself, do you not have Mexicans in uptown NY? They would had paved it for $500 around my neck of the woods.
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Looks much better than concrete, I applaud you for doing the work. Even if I had the skills, I would not want to do that myself, do you not have Mexicans in uptown NY? They would had paved it for $500 around my neck of the woods.
Thanks, pictures don't do it justice, I'll be sure to post pictures in a day or so when the sealer has dried and all is finished.

I wish we had cheap labor up here. The ones we do have, you'd better be sure your tools and house are locked up.
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what kind of base did u use ? did u use sand and stone etc...or did u use one kindof stone and then compact it ?

are you afraid of it settling ?

have u done this before or did u learn to do it from youtube videos /

it looks very nice though, very professional and upscale.
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I dug to 12 inches. Installed a driveway liner fabric. Put in ten inches of crusher run stone. Ran a gas powered compactor over that. Then I put down 1.5 inches of stone dust (fine gravel) and screeded that with a 2x4. Laid bricks on that. When the bricks were finished, I put down as much sand as I could on top and spread it around. Ran the compactor over that about 4 times, continually adding more sand. Then I spent another day sweeping sand into the cracks. Waiting for the rain to clean and settle the sand, then I'll apply sealer.

I learned a lot from the internet, but have a basic background in construction, diy, etc...

Pics today while I was sweeping sand, looking forward to the rain and sealer to help get rid of the pink look you see in the pics.

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Too cheap to pave driveway. Bought 6000 pavers instead. Pics.

Those prices are insane!!! I live in a little complex with 3 other houses. We have a HUGE driveway. Over 200' from the last house down to the street. Myself and my neighbors all pitched in to have our roadway and driveways all paved. The bill was $6k. That was 7yrs ago and it still looks new.

Looks great though! I like the bricks


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Those prices are insane!!! I live in a little complex with 3 other houses. We have a HUGE driveway. Over 200' from the last house down to the street. Myself and my neighbors all pitched in to have our roadway and driveways all paved. The bill was $6k. That was 7yrs ago and it still looks new.

Looks great though! I like the bricks


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Thanks! Did you pay to get it topcoated or completely dug out and replaced?

blacktop guys wanted 2900 to put a topcoat.

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