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Old 05-30-2009, 01:32 AM   #81
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That is what we are hoping for. Most likely higher 11's without some sort of LSD. 285s with that would put me in mid or low elevens and the goal is to meet emissions and be street legal.
are you losing a ton of weight? nitrous?
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:35 AM   #82
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That is what we are hoping for. Most likely higher 11's without some sort of LSD. 285s with that would put me in mid or low elevens and the goal is to meet emissions and be street legal.
One exhaust option that I've been looking into is having a normal 3" with all of the stock fittings (resonator, cats, etc) to meet emissions and keep it BMW style (quiet), but to have an e-cutout right after the downpipe. IMO it would be the best of both worlds.. and would definitely still pass smog.

285's would be nice.. I'm sure you can get those to tuck with the right setup.

GTU I'm going to ignore your post in the interest of not making this a pissing match..
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GTU I'm going to ignore your post in the interest of not making this a pissing match..
I respect that. I will do the same and try to give some positive input to your thread without sounding like an a**hole.
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You lost me....who are the 3 companies that offer turbo kits for the M54?

1.) TT
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3.) ?

I try to keep informed about the M54 ya know.
I'm sure David meant 3 companies (Technique Tuning, AA, ESS) offering FI kits not limited to turbo kits, but superchargers as well.
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:39 AM   #85
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No weight loss. Pushing around 400 at the wheels and a bar of boost. The 285s will fit with m3 fenders or so I have been told. NOS will do 1 of 2 things. Put me in the low elevens or high tens or blow my engine to pieces. I would only do DI for that. Attaus, there are ways to open up the diaphragm by tapping into the Ecu. Yeah it would be. The exhaust that is ideal though is something really quiet until you really get on it.
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I respect that. I will do the same and try to give some positive input to your thread without sounding like an a**hole.
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I'm sure David meant 3 companies (Technique Tuning, AA, ESS) offering FI kits not limited to turbo kits, but superchargers as well.
+1 - only TT has a turbo kit, but all of the companies know the motor from a FI standpoint.


330i ZHP - I agree that he needs to lose some weight off the car, but it only weighs 3,200 and change.. which isn't bad for a luxo-coupe. I'm not sure where exactly he will land on the power level, but 500hp and a little weight loss should be high 11's.
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If someone has some info on what FAILS FIRST in these motors under boost then that would go a long way in figuring out how to make them last.
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If I push a bar+ with the right tires, enforcement and good driving, built motor, 11's is possible. The sedan is lighter than the coupe in most cases.
I do agree that weight loss would be nice though. Attaus, you can PM me about the details if you want since they are always changing, that goes for anyone interested in the project as well
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GT, with the built motor the likeliness of something going is slim. With high compression either the vanos or the head will go. Im sure other stuff can go wrong but I have seen the head go most
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Well, you paid $8k to buy it from someone and then have them install it.

Imagine how much you would save through DIY.. $1000 off the top just in labor, and a helluva lot more on material costs. To be honest, $8k is very conservative. The typical well-built DIY turbo kit costs $3k.
The cost of the intake manifold he has would be over $8k to produce to just one unit.

I don't understand how you can buy quality parts and build a kit for $3k. The turbo/manifold/intercooler alone would run you almost that. You bought the wrong car if you're looking for a $3k 400hp turbo kit.
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You lost me....who are the 3 companies that offer turbo kits for the M54?

1.) TT
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I try to keep informed about the M54 ya know.
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The cost of the intake manifold he has would be over $8k to produce to just one unit.
DIY turbo. You don't need a new intake manifold for a turbo kit.

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I don't understand how you can buy quality parts and build a kit for $3k. The turbo/manifold/intercooler alone would run you almost that. You bought the wrong car if you're looking for a $3k 400hp turbo kit.
IC Piping and oil lines - $150
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Exhaust (custom) - $200
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Off the top of my head.. so that's $3k, the only thing left is tuning, and I'm not sure what a pre-mapped chip would cost. All prices were actually checked (except the custom work), it's just where ya find 'em.

But that's cutting it pretty tight.. I just said that most turbo kits run $3k. A BMW would probably run a little more because of that $1000 clutch and tuning costs, but as you can see it's pretty close.
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I will be running 1.03421359 bar (15psi) and I could only hope for 11s...i am skirting 12.99 (best was 13.04) with 8psi on the wagon
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Legally? I was told by all pros that I would be in the high elevens. Yeah you are almost doubling your boost so you would be near eleven if not high or medium.
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i will, although then I would be tempted to install them on the sedan and move the Ss to the wagon...ugh, two header installs...kill me now
Oh...I forgot about the KK install...I pull my whole engine out for that. Seriously.

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That is what we are hoping for. Most likely higher 11's without some sort of LSD. 285s with that would put me in mid or low elevens and the goal is to meet emissions and be street legal.
285s aren't going to fit...and I personally wouldn't chose to use them on the strip. 26 X 10.5s are the way to go.

11s are possible, but will be harder to achieve than you think.

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DIY turbo. You don't need a new intake manifold for a turbo kit.
Plastic manifold may not be strong enough to hold the boost (most likely not)
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pei, what did euro put on there zhp? If i have the fenders made they will fit and be intimidating..
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Subscribed I want to know all about M54B30 motors making over 400rwhp. Is it possible and is there really only one person even close enough to do it?
How many M54B30 motors that have been built for Force Induction or nitrous that we know of. Surely Adam(PEI330ci) can't be the only one.
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ritos, Ill be at 400rwhp if not more if the tuning can be done. The ECU needs to be tweaked to allow more intake to up the boost.
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ritos, Ill be at 400rwhp if not more if the tuning can be done. The ECU needs to be tweaked to allow more intake to up the boost.
LOL I know it can be done i was being a jerk. Many of you probably know that i have done everything to my car that could be done. I just have to iron out my boost leaks and get a proper tune on the car. I am already there just with a bad tune(not really true but that's the word on the streets) LOL
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