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Old 05-06-2009, 05:27 PM   #1
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Going from staggered to square questions...

Ok... I have s 2004 330i ZHP. I want to get rid of the staggered wheel and tire setup. I'm looking at Enkei RPF-1s. Tirerack has 18x8.5s... offset is +40mm.

I want the rear wheels to sit flush with my fenders like my factory rear wheels do... so what size spacers should I use? 20mm?? 25mm??

Also, can I get away with 255/35/18 tires at all four corners? I'm willing to have some fender rolling done... that's not a problem.

I am at stock ride height, and I do not plan to lower the car.

Thanks in advance for any help...
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:56 PM   #2
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255 should be okay all the way around.

Wait on the spacers until you have the wheels on the car to see what you can use.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:56 PM   #3
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Your factory rear wheels do not sit "flush" with the fender. I would go no wider than a 10mm spacer with the 255's. You shouldn't rub with rolled fenders with that setup, but it is still possible like when you hit large dips in the road at speed.

Edit: I second what Aggie said. Get everything but the spacers done first, and then measure what space you have left after you roll the fenders to determine what spacer to get.
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:42 PM   #4
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Cool... thanks for the advice guys! I appreciate it.

Looks like I'll order up the wheels and tires first, then go from there.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:55 PM   #5
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If you really want spacers get 5mm all around so that will take you to a 35mm 8.5" which sits flush.
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If you really want spacers get 5mm all around so that will take you to a 35mm 8.5" which sits flush.
I agree with Chris. 5mm sounds perfect with 255's and fender roll.

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Old 05-07-2009, 01:08 PM   #7
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Hmm... that would lookpretty badass IMO.

I wonder if I can track down any pics of similar setups.... time to see how good I am with the search function.


One more question... will I need to do any camber adjusting for this setup??
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Old 05-14-2009, 05:29 PM   #8
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Ok... I ordered my wheels and tires:

4x 18x8.5 Enkei RPF1s (black finish) 40mm offset
4x 255/35/18 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus tires

Should I be making an appointment to get my fenders rolled before I even put these wheels and tires on? Or can I get away with driving with them on there for a couple days with no fender roll if I'm really really careful??
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I would throw the wheels on first and see how much you need to work with to get them to fit without any rubbing issues.

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Ok... I ordered my wheels and tires:

4x 18x8.5 Enkei RPF1s (black finish) 40mm offset
4x 255/35/18 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus tires

Should I be making an appointment to get my fenders rolled before I even put these wheels and tires on? Or can I get away with driving with them on there for a couple days with no fender roll if I'm really really careful??
I highly doubt you'll need to roll fenders. Those RPF1s are one of my favorite wheels.
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Hmm... that would lookpretty badass IMO.

I wonder if I can track down any pics of similar setups.... time to see how good I am with the search function.


One more question... will I need to do any camber adjusting for this setup??
8.5" +35 doesn't look too bad. It isn't perfectly flush but close. That is my setup right now. I wish I could go more aggressive but I'd rub like a B*TCH. I rub on that now w/ 245's (keep in mind how low my car is).

More camber shouldn't be necessary, but you should definitely roll your fenders. You will probably rub until you do that.
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Old 05-24-2009, 12:30 PM   #12
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The wheels and tires are on!

Here is a crappy cellphone pic... I'll have to take some decent ones soon. The way the car is parked, the gap in the front is deceptively large... When parked on an even surface, the gap looks like it does in the rear on all four corners.

255/35/18s all around. NO RUBBING. No fender rolling either! Everybody (including tirerack folks) told me my fronts would not fit. But they were definitely wrong. I have done some pretty extreme cornering with four big dudes in the car and I've had zero issues.



Oh... and the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus tires... EXCELLENT! They are incredibly grippy despite their extremely hard compound. I expect these to last a very, very long time.
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I'd like to see a better shot of the wheels on the car, I could be wrong but I reckon 255 on the front wouldn't look too flash on an E46.
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looking good bigabe
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I'm looking at doing a similar setup, yet I've heard from several sources that the fronts will rub. Can you post better pictures of the front tires in relation to the fenders and springs/shocks?
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255 on the front seem a bit jeep like for me. I like 225's or 235's up front
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