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Old 08-22-2003, 07:23 PM   #1
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18X8.5 with 225-seems skinny

I was looking at the Magic's and their 18.8.5 rim comes with a suggested 225. that seems pretty skinny to me. I had M68's in the back before with 245 and i liked that width, will the 225 look a lot skinnier. I dont get it same width rim, skinnier tires...arghhh.
what can i do, i really dig the magic's, and 19's are too big for my taste.
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Old 08-22-2003, 07:42 PM   #2
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just run the 245 on the rear... no one's stopping you, and the fit should be fine
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Old 08-22-2003, 07:47 PM   #3
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i called a shop near me to double check they too said that 225 is preferred and that 245 would rub. I asked them if they can roll the fenders and he said something about it effecting the car's estethics, sounded like bs to me.
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Old 08-22-2003, 07:52 PM   #4
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here's what you do

1) drive down to the shop

2) step out of the car

3) show the guy the stickers on the driver's door panel, which tells you that 255/35/18 is a stock tire size for the rears

4) purchase your 245 width tires
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anyone know what special order on tirerack.com means? how long would it take to get a set of wheels under that classifications i was looking at the SSR GT1 18x8 fronts...
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I just to have the 18x8.5 all around with 225-40-18 Front and 255-35-18 rear (as recommended by BMW back then) now is standard on the 330s with 18 inch sport package. The rubbing will depend on the offset. My breytons were 38 offset (I think) and the setup above I justto rub onlywhen carrying more than 2 people. Then I lowered my suspension with Bilstein PSS9 and had to roll the fenders. No more rubbing.

After the tires worn off, I always thought there was too much rim for the tires (tires a bit too small) SO i decided to go a bit bigger tires and a wider rim on the rear (9.5 ) so now I have Breyton Magics 18x8.5 and 18x9.5 now with 235-40-18 and 265-35-18 respectively. This time I had to shave my fenders and its OK, but occasionally I rub on a small piece of plastic that holds the bumper only when more than 2 people are ridding my car.

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I have a non-sport 330 sedan, can i still fit 235-40-18 all around then? i just dont want 225, breytons have big lips and i dont want it sticking out.

will the 235-40-18 fit my non sport sedan?
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anyone know what special order on tirerack.com means? how long would it take to get a set of wheels under that classifications i was looking at the SSR GT1 18x8 fronts...
Unfortunately, we won't be seeing more of these until November or later, sorry.
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gary, will the 235-40-18 fit my non sport sedan? i know you reccomend 225, but can your slap on 235 at your warehouse?
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We can try them. There are a few cars that have had some rubbing reports with 235s, so be sure you're aware of that and are willing to accept responsibility for the fit.
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Gary,
I was thinking of doing 225 up front and 235/40 in the back for that staggered look with the breyton magic's.
Worst comes the first if it rubs-and i would guess slightly I would have to roll a lil in the back?

Also i was looking at Inspirations on tirerack and it says youca n get the optional 9.5 rears with the 255 tire. Hows that possible when fitting 235's might cause some rubbing?
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Correct, a rear fender lip roll should help with the rubbing on the rear. The 9.5" rears sometimes require fender rolling with 255/35R18.
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Check out Breytons website and you will see that Magics come in et38 or et44 for an e46.... Go with 235x40x18x8.5 et44 all around and you will not have to worry about rubbing..... Just make sure you get the et44's.... I have 18" (et44) Inspirations with 225x40's on them and the 225's are too small for that rim. When the 225's wear out I will go to 235's all around... You can put 225's on an 8.5" rim BUT they just don't look good....
BTW BMW puts 225's x 8" oem wheels on the front and255x8.5 on the rear as an option....
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Check out Breytons website and you will see that Magics come in et38 or et44 for an e46.... Go with 235x40x18x8.5 et44 all around and you will not have to worry about rubbing..... Just make sure you get the et44's.... I have 18" (et44) Inspirations with 225x40's on them and the 225's are too small for that rim. When the 225's wear out I will go to 235's all around... You can put 225's on an 8.5" rim BUT they just don't look good....
BTW BMW puts 225's x 8" oem wheels on the front and255x8.5 on the rear as an option....
does tirerack sell them in et44 or et38?
can i opt for the et44?
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Only ET 38 now imported to the US to us, thus the possible fender roll issues. Breyton offers other sizes in Europe that they do not import to us here currently. This may change in the future, no idea at this time though. I do remember us getting some ET44's in the past, so we may perhaps be able to get them again.
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BTW BMW puts 225's x 8" oem wheels on the front and255x8.5 on the rear as an option.... [/B]
Yes, but 9.5" rears will be more aggressive. No one is telling you it won't fit for sure, just that some have reported rubbing, so keep in the back of your mind that you may need a fender roll with 9.5" 255/35R18

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Check out Breytons website and you will see that Magics come in et38 or et44 for an e46.... Go with 235x40x18x8.5 et44 all around and you will not have to worry about rubbing..... Just make sure you get the et44's.... I have 18" (et44) Inspirations with 225x40's on them and the 225's are too small for that rim. When the 225's wear out I will go to 235's all around... You can put 225's on an 8.5" rim BUT they just don't look good....
BTW BMW puts 225's x 8" oem wheels on the front and255x8.5 on the rear as an option....
where did you get your et44's, gary said that they dont have any et44 since they are not imported to the US, where do i get mine is et44 then, or wost comes the worst ill get et38 225 up front and 235 in the back and roll the back a lil if needed.
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I just to have the 18x8.5 all around with 225-40-18 Front and 255-35-18 rear (as recommended by BMW back then) now is standard on the 330s with 18 inch sport package.
Actually, all the OEM 18" set ups are staggered...18.0 front, 18.5 rear.
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I got my 18x8.5 ET44 Inspirations from Tirerack in 2/01... I don't know if they have 44's now....
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