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Old 07-17-2009, 05:55 PM   #21
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scam, did u have to ask? 9.99999 times out of ten if its too good to be true, it usually is. also the plain fact that he wants to use that third party bs thru ebay is scummy.
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:15 PM   #22
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just tell him ul send him a check for 10,000 and for him to cash it and send u back the differance with the car
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:20 PM   #23
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ask him for the address in bergen county NJ i live minutes away. Ill look at it for you.
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:43 PM   #24
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ask him for the address in bergen county NJ i live minutes away. Ill look at it for you.
Thanks man! Yeah I did that and told him that I won't deal through ebay, but i will fly down to nj and pay for it in cash if my "relative" (you or any other fanatic willing and close) checks out the car and it looks good. Haven't gotten a response yet, but no doubt he either a) won't respond or b) will make up some bs story as to why he has to deal through ebay and no one can see the car. I will keep the thread updated, but I don't have a doubt in my mind its a complete scam. Ahh craigslist, you never fail to entertain me.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:57 PM   #25
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OP, you are very lucky to have people who are willing to help you out and take a look at the car for you. Very freakin cool...I got all tingly inside

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Old 07-17-2009, 11:48 PM   #26
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OP, you are very lucky to have people who are willing to help you out and take a look at the car for you. Very freakin cool...I got all tingly inside

+1. There are so many great fanatics on this board!

OP, this deal is extremely suspicious. If he's willing to sell at $7500 and the car is legit why wouldn't he just sell it to a local dealership? No dealership will turn down this kind of deal...
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Old 07-18-2009, 01:50 PM   #27
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Update.

Heres the latest email I received from him, after asking if someone could come look at the car.

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I would be glad to meet with you but my job is not offering me this chance..Because of my job I am traveling a lot and I can not stay home and expect to meet potential client.That is why I've choose the internet way to sell it.
If we decide to proceed with this transaction,i will have to contact ebay and provide them all the necessary information, so they can start the process right away.
I will be needing your full name and address for that.You will receive a notification from ebay shortly after that,with all the instructions to follow and the invoice as well.
Regarding the payment, you will be instructed to deposit the money to an eBay Bank account.They will hold and insure your money until receipt of the car in good condition.
As soon as i will have the confirmation from ebay that the funds have been deposited to their account, i will immediately start the shipping process. The car will be delivered to your address in no more than 5-6 working days.You will be given a 5 days inspection period from the day you receive the car at home. If you decide to hold the car, then you will have to authorize ebay to release the funds to me, and the transaction will be completed.If you will not be satisfied with the car, you will be able to send the car back through the same shipping company on my expence and your money will be return to you.Though i am sure you will love the car and will not want to return it.The car will be shipped crated by DAS Auto Shippers, this is a door to door delivery service not coast to coast so the car will arrive at your address, you won't have to worry about picking it up from a dock.I will send the car with all the papers and documents(clear title,bills of sale,car's manual).The clear title and the bill of sale will both be signed and they will be shipped together with the car.Also this car will arrive with all the documentations required for registration and 2x keys.If you wish to proceed with the purchase,please provide me your full name and shipping address so I can initiate the deal through ebay right away.
I look forward to hearing from you.
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This just continues to confuse me. I'm beginning to wonder if this eBay money holding thing he's talking about is actually legitimate. If it is, its almost like why wouldn't I buy it and in worst case scenario just back out like he described? But certainly this isn't the case. Its also worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure the ad is pulled from craigslist.
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Old 07-18-2009, 01:53 PM   #28
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OP, you are very lucky to have people who are willing to help you out and take a look at the car for you. Very freakin cool...I got all tingly inside

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+1. There are so many great fanatics on this board!

OP, this deal is extremely suspicious. If he's willing to sell at $7500 and the car is legit why wouldn't he just sell it to a local dealership? No dealership will turn down this kind of deal...
+1 You guys are awesome

And yes, it seems that if he needed to save his wife's life with this 7500 dollars he wouldn't **** around with posting an ad on a distant cl site when that option existed.
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Old 07-18-2009, 04:46 PM   #29
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it always amazes me how these scammers use english as their second language. the way they type should be a dead give away. i doubt this guy even lives in the us.
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:13 PM   #30
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hmm very fishy.. my gut feeling is scam..99.9 % sure it is...but theres always that .1% haha
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:18 PM   #31
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Get an address, I'm in Bergen Co, tell him I don't have to meet him just wanna make sure the car is there lol
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:51 PM   #32
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Since when does a K&N intake and Dinan software translate into 18whp? That's the biggest load of crap yet.


If you try to buy that $7500 M3, I got a nice 2005 Lambo I'll sell you for $12,500.
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Old 07-18-2009, 06:18 PM   #33
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:23 AM   #34
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Since when does a K&N intake and Dinan software translate into 18whp? That's the biggest load of crap yet.


If you try to buy that $7500 M3, I got a nice 2005 Lambo I'll sell you for $12,500.
well that sucks because that means that K&N, which i always thought was a reputable company, is lying to anyone who views this page!
http://knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=57-1003

And oh that sounds good man, no one said I was buying this car either hah. I'm not in the market for a lambo, but thanks anyway for the sarcasm
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:32 AM   #35
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how can people not know if this is a scam or not... jesus.
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:26 AM   #36
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The fact he keeps saying he wants to do it over the internet is a dead give away. Oh and his pathetic English lol.
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Old 07-19-2009, 12:10 PM   #37
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Definately a scam.

This seller on buysell.com is using the same pictures as your seller...

http://www.buysell.com/root/detail/B...ior_Color.aspx

...About the same price too!

Craigslist, kijiji, littered with these scammers.

I responded to an ad for a 4500 dollar 2003 M3 'vert. The story:
Divorced, selling the car
Out of country (in the UK)
Ebay motors sale.

his email was georgesuton@yahoo.com

I asked for his ebay seller ID, and listing number. He could not provide either. As soon as someone tries to do business with you on eBay, outside of eBay. Forget about it. He was sending me fake ebay pages left and right. All of which had invalid domains (one's that did not correspond with ebay's site).
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The fact he keeps saying he wants to do it over the internet is a dead give away. Oh and his pathetic English lol.
yeah you'd think scammers would learn by this time to get some legitimate english going so they could convince at least someone?

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Definately a scam.

This seller on buysell.com is using the same pictures as your seller...

http://www.buysell.com/root/detail/B...ior_Color.aspx

...About the same price too!

Craigslist, kijiji, littered with these scammers.

I responded to an ad for a 4500 dollar 2003 M3 'vert. The story:
Divorced, selling the car
Out of country (in the UK)
Ebay motors sale.

his email was georgesuton@yahoo.com

I asked for his ebay seller ID, and listing number. He could not provide either. As soon as someone tries to do business with you on eBay, outside of eBay. Forget about it. He was sending me fake ebay pages left and right. All of which had invalid domains (one's that did not correspond with ebay's site).
haha wouldn't surprise me if it was the same fool. this guy's name was "Fred Carter" with an email address semi.more@live.com haha
I'm sure he would do the exact same thing to me but I just stopped responding. thread can be closed I guess.
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great find by the way on those pictures parchedmosquito! thats the nail in the coffin for "Fred" hahaha. Reminds me of Microsoft phone techies mysteriously named "Bob."
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well that sucks because that means that K&N, which i always thought was a reputable company, is lying to anyone who views this page!
http://knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=57-1003

And oh that sounds good man, no one said I was buying this car either hah. I'm not in the market for a lambo, but thanks anyway for the sarcasm
Yea K&N are full of BS

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Lol. Scam for reall. You can sell a M @ carfax for cash for AT LEAST $15k. Just have someone check it out and drive it and look at all the documents.It's 100% sure a scam through ebay somehow.

He is using English as a second language. He's probably in Nigeria scamming several people.

I would bet $1000 it's a fking scam
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