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Are you a gun fanatic as well? If so, you'll want to talk to other owners about what you own in this forum.

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Old 11-09-2009, 02:45 PM   #1
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Just tried out the gun range ....

... and man it was alot of fun!! It was the first time I've ever shot a gun before [im 25] and it was pretty cool. It was also a tad intimidating holding a gun knowing this little thing is capable of taking someones life.

A friend and I checked out a typical police issue Beretta 92, 9mm gun. Little did i know it is capable of decent kick back [no amount of fps gaming will teach you that haha] ... and I'm sure the 9mm is super tame compared to everything else out there.

On the targets, at 25' away I was able to get my shots within the largest torso oval [#7 ring?] ... I guess that's alright for my first try.

Now that i've tried it, I'm highly interested in practicing to hone my [lack of] skills. What I'm wondering is... is there any way to make gun ownership feasible/affordable?

Example:
1 day at a range:
$20 Gun Rental
$20 Ammo [winchester clean 50rds]
$20 Range fee and safety equipment

At $60/pop for maybe 1.5 hours ... a tough pill to swallow.

I would be interested in buying a gun, solely for sport, practicing at the range ... but initial investment of say $600 for the gun and $200 for extra equipment [hearing/visual protection, cleaning kits, box and lock] ... I wonder if it makes sense to purchase in the first place. Then there is the cost of ammo. Bulk prices are at best $15/box of 50rds.

So yea, just some thoughts coming from a prospective gun owner. If there's anyone else here that was once on the fence and willing to share some wisdom, I'm all ears.

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Old 11-09-2009, 03:37 PM   #2
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Join the Marines. Everything is free including shooting lessons. And you'll get to shoot at targets that shoot back.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:33 PM   #3
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they charge $20 for a rental? geeeeez.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:39 PM   #4
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wow like 10 dollars for your basic side arm.
I went shooting this weekend with my brother he just got a M-1 Garand from CMP. It is 1950s vintage.
I took my AK-47 and we went Zombie hunting Yeah we had fun. Next time we are taking my H&K USP 45 and his Springfield Armory XD
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:41 PM   #5
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they charge $20 for a rental? geeeeez.
Yea, it was too much. I think i found another place that's $10 cheaper... but still it's an expensive hobby. I wonder if that's because IL has some of the strictest gun laws in the country... so access is very limited. I needed a FOID card just to shoot at the range.
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Yea, it was too much. I think i found another place that's $10 cheaper... but still it's an expensive hobby. I wonder if that's because IL has some of the strictest gun laws in the country... so access is very limited. I needed a FOID card just to shoot at the range.
Glad I live in Florida. I just have to be a sane, legal person to own a weapon
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:23 PM   #7
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... What I'm wondering is... is there any way to make gun ownership feasible/affordable?

Example:
1 day at a range:
$20 Gun Rental
$20 Ammo [winchester clean 50rds]
$20 Range fee and safety equipment

At $60/pop for maybe 1.5 hours ... a tough pill to swallow.

I would be interested in buying a gun, solely for sport, practicing at the range ... but initial investment of say $600 for the gun and $200 for extra equipment [hearing/visual protection, cleaning kits, box and lock] ... I wonder if it makes sense to purchase in the first place. Then there is the cost of ammo. Bulk prices are at best $15/box of 50rds.

So yea, just some thoughts coming from a prospective gun owner. If there's anyone else here that was once on the fence and willing to share some wisdom, I'm all ears.
Range can get expensive, but it sounds like you went to an expensive range.

With a little planning and homework, you can get your range fee down, ammo at half that price, and can buy your own eyes and ears for $30-$50.

If you like that range, negotiate 5 range passes with your gun purchase and buy your ammo at walmart.

Have fun and be safe.

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Wow, that is WAY expensive. Shooting is expensive, but Glockman's suggestions work.
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My range is 7 bucks.. ammo is what will run your costs up. Once you own a gun, no need for the rental..
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Yup it seems like the range definately was over priced... it was a nice facility though, ac/heated/ventilated with motorized target rails.

There is another gun range I'm going to check out and try again, see what I think of it. I'll check out walmart for the ammo, good tip.
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Glad I live in Florida. I just have to be a sane, legal person to own a weapon
Honestly though, I approve of the foid card step. It's just one method to ensure the right people have access to guns. Since I have no strikes on my records, there is no reason for me to be denied access [and I wasn't]. what is really oppressive is the entire city of Chicago bans registration of handguns, effectively outlawing ownership if i understand correctly. Thankfully I'm in the suburbs.
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Shooting is a hobby that makes golf look pretty affordable, lol

Like others have said, look around and go to a cheaper range with cheaper rental rates. Call ahead and see if they will let you bring your own ammo. Pick it up at walmart and you'll save some money doing that.

Also, .22LR is the cheapest way to shoot all day for practically nothing. Ammo is a few cents per round and they are fun to shoot. You aren't going to be drilling big holes in your targets, but you'll establish good habits early on since there is so little recoil. You can buy a Ruger Mark III for less than $300 and a case of 5,000 rounds for less than $200. That is a lot of shooting for the money, although you'll surely want to mix up the caliber that you're shooting from time to time.
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im in chicago too and heres the breakdown of my fees:
glock 17 purchased for $625 including an entire LIFETIME of service/repairs by the shop
9x19mm ammo about $21.xx
range fee $16.50
ear and eye protection (dont need it cuz i bring my own) but its $.50

i could go to this other place and pay $10/hour but the people there arent so nice
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im in chicago too and heres the breakdown of my fees:
glock 17 purchased for $625 including an entire LIFETIME of service/repairs by the shop
9x19mm ammo about $21.xx
range fee $16.50
ear and eye protection (dont need it cuz i bring my own) but its $.50

i could go to this other place and pay $10/hour but the people there arent so nice
Thanks for the info.

Imma try out some other 9mm hand guns. I liked how the beretta 92 felt but i need to try others to make a real comparison. What are the top selling 9mm guns?
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Thanks for the info.

Imma try out some other 9mm hand guns. I liked how the beretta 92 felt but i need to try others to make a real comparison. What are the top selling 9mm guns?
Glock is used by more than half of the LE agencies.

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im in chicago too and heres the breakdown of my fees:
glock 17 purchased for $625 including an entire LIFETIME of service/repairs by the shop
9x19mm ammo about $21.xx
range fee $16.50
ear and eye protection (dont need it cuz i bring my own) but its $.50

i could go to this other place and pay $10/hour but the people there arent so nice
WOW the gun and ammo are both way over priced.

I just bought a Glock for $475 and 9mm Blazer BRASS is $11 at WalMart.

PS - Glocks dont break.
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I am getting ready to buy the G26 .. it's the only Glock our Agency allows right now, and it will be perfect for concealed carry
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I am getting ready to buy the G26 .. it's the only Glock our Agency allows right now, and it will be perfect for concealed carry
I have one (of course) and it really shoots suprisingly well.

I just watched a video of a guy who can hit a gong about 50% of the time with a G19 at 230 yards.

230 YARDS!



I wish that they would do a single stack version of the G26, it really would be the perfect carry.
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WOW the gun and ammo are both way over priced.

I just bought a Glock for $475 and 9mm Blazer BRASS is $11 at WalMart.

PS - Glocks dont break.
the gun itself was $549 then the tax and warranty brought it to $625. other places here are selling the G17 for like $650ish for just the gun prices here are quite ridiculous but i saw it as a long-term purchase...ill probably have it forever and knowing glocks reliability plus the lifetime warranty from the shop kinda evens out the cost. i dont know if walmart sells ammo here because of how strict IL gun laws are, but if they did, it would be way south from where i am. they probably wouldnt even have much in stock anyway so i dont have a lot of options
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I picked up a Ruger P95 9mm a few months ago for $400 with some accessories. I wanted it for personal protection but I have gotten into shooting a lot more. i think I'm going to pick up a 22 for target shooting. Our range is out in the woods and its setup like a boat ramp where you just put money in an envelope.
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