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Old 11-13-2009, 06:04 PM   #1
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Raceland coilover TUV cert copy?

Does anybody actually have a copy of the TUV cert for the raceland coilovers for the E46?

Their website does not have a copy, nor do they ever actually say they have one. They refer to being TUV "members" and refer to having some TUV certed prooducts, but near as I can tell they never actually state they have a TUV cert for the E46 coilovers.

If you are unfamiliar with TUV certs, attached are copies for the Koni coilovers and H&R coilovers.

One final note, please don't troll up the thread with your opinions about the Raceland coilovers. Keep it to the facts. If you got a copy of the TUV cert, post it. If you've searched and keep coming up empty handed, post that.

Personally, I've looked and have come to the conclusion it does not exist. If you have facts to the contrary, please share, but let's keep it to the facts.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:12 PM   #2
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I hink you've come to the correct conclusion. It doesnt exist
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For all my reservations of this cheap kit here is what appears to be the certificate....

You can thank my Sherlock Holmes ability of finding obscure **** on the internet.

Edit: Though this is for the E36 kit I can't see why the E46 kit would be any different.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:25 PM   #4
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Good find, I'll confess to being surprised.
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Good find, I'll confess to being surprised.
Me too. My experience is that if something sounds too good to be true then usually it is. There seems to be some decent QC behind these but I think I'll still let others take the risk.

Glad people are happy with them though. I'd rather be wrong about the quality then hear about someone getting hurt with them. Saying 'I told you' so loses some of its appeal when lives are involved.
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Bump for certs.
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wow, sh1t looks legit too... im pleasantly surprised, and it sure mentions our car too.

thanks for the bump, im wooting for the bad guys, but im not gonna be naive about it, .
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For all my reservations of this cheap kit here is what appears to be the certificate....

You can thank my Sherlock Holmes ability of finding obscure **** on the internet.

Edit: Though this is for the E36 kit I can't see why the E46 kit would be any different.
The e46 vs. e36 coilovers are different, thus needs to have a different certification for e46's.
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The e46 vs. e36 coilovers are different, thus needs to have a different certification for e46's.
Absolutely correct - but seeing as they were able to produce at least one coilover product that met TUV safety standards, it's a reasonable presumption that the manufacturer could maintain that minimum level of quality on similar products. While that's not quite the same as seeing the actual E46 TUV cert, in my view it does at least get them partial credit.
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It def gives them partial credit in my eyes. Huge partial credit.
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Absolutely correct - but seeing as they were able to produce at least one coilover product that met TUV safety standards, it's a reasonable presumption that the manufacturer could maintain that minimum level of quality on similar products. While that's not quite the same as seeing the actual E46 TUV cert, in my view it does at least get them partial credit.
Yes this was my thought too. Why bother with TUV cert for one kit and then lie about the other one?
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someone did say that the TUV certificate is for their logistics, and not for the coils.
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have you seen where the welds break on the E36 kits, the ones that are TUV certified?
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someone did say that the TUV certificate is for their logistics, and not for the coils.
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someone did say that the TUV certificate is for their logistics, and not for the coils.
Yes, and the cert has EXPIRED!!!!!
Reputable companys provide copys of the DOT and TUV certs that apply to their products on their home websites!!!

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Yes, and the cert has EXPIRED!!!!!
Reputable companys provide copys of the DOT and TUV certs that apply to their products on their home websites!!!
That was the ISO 9001 cert for their logistics system that had expired, not a TUV cert - those are very different things.
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That was the ISO 9001 cert for their logistics system that had expired, not a TUV cert - those are very different things.
True, it was an ISO cert that was expired.


This still stands.....
Reputable companys provide copys of the DOT and TUV certs that apply to their products on their home websites!!! And current ones!!!
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True, it was an ISO cert that was expired.


This still stands.....
Reputable companys provide copys of the DOT and TUV certs that apply to their products on their home websites!!! And current ones!!!
they definatly dont have a DOT cert considering the amount of times they tell you to never drive them on a car on the street
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Be careful about jumping to conclusions. The E36 TUV certificate may cover the "part family" of raceland coils, basically a set of part numbers (probably regardless of application). The TUV cert is for quality, documentation, and basic strength/reliability type testing done to prove the design. Generally speaking, the E36 and E46 application are similar enough that they may be covered. I can't translate german, but I do know that for fuel cell cars, holding one TUV cert for the fuel cell part numbers enables you to use it in different make and model cars (how I spend my days).
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Be careful about jumping to conclusions. The E36 TUV certificate may cover the "part family" of raceland coils, basically a set of part numbers (probably regardless of application). The TUV cert is for quality, documentation, and basic strength/reliability type testing done to prove the design. Generally speaking, the E36 and E46 application are similar enough that they may be covered. I can't translate german, but I do know that for fuel cell cars, holding one TUV cert for the fuel cell part numbers enables you to use it in different make and model cars (how I spend my days).
TUV certification must be done for each application.

The difference with the fuel cell is that it's universal. You have to prove its durability and its construction. Being that suspension designs are different on every application, you must certify each one.
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