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Old 12-02-2009, 10:50 PM   #61
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Old 12-03-2009, 09:10 PM   #62
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The jerkiness and failure to accelerate comes from a lean mixture in the engine. Tune the car for the correct A:F ratio in that segment of the fuel map (just like it comes from the factory) and there is no bucking.
Has HPF ever attempted to tune a supercharged car with your AEM standalone? I know it would take away from selling your Turbo systems but just curious if you guys could solve this issue?
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:47 PM   #63
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Has HPF ever attempted to tune a supercharged car with your AEM standalone? I know it would take away from selling your Turbo systems but just curious if you guys could solve this issue?
Might be happening very soon.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:00 PM   #64
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Might be happening very soon.
That would be a really nice option. The only down side would be the cost of the AEM piggyback. You might as well get AA or Miller to do a custom tune.

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Old 12-04-2009, 12:01 AM   #65
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That would be a really nice option. The only down side would be the cost of the AEM piggyback. You might as well get AA or Miller to do a custom tune.
The upside would be the power and flexibility that a stand alone offers.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:15 AM   #66
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Wow !

Amazing !

Quick question - Has anyone ever asked for the option of pump gas only and a built engine?

This may not be worth the effort but I just wanted to ask.

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Old 12-04-2009, 10:23 AM   #67
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The upside would be the power and flexibility that a stand alone offers.
Exactly what I was thinking. I look forward to seeing what the AEM/HPF stand alone brings forward.

That was a really awesome video. I watched the entire thing last night and I'm definately sold on the HPF Turbo.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:17 AM   #69
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The upside would be the power and flexibility that a stand alone offers.
Does your AEM setup allow to control Vanos?

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Old 12-04-2009, 11:49 AM   #70
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:58 AM   #71
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Does your AEM setup allow to control Vanos?
Of course. We control both the intake and exhaust cam and have programmed them in a table that allows us +/- 20 degrees based on both rpm and boost. It is truly remarkable how much power you can pick up by advancing/retarding the cams based on rpm and boost. That's the main reason our kits have virtually no turbo lag, it's because we've set the cams for the maximum power at lower rpms as well as tuned the cams for the maximum performance across the entire powerband.

JP (our engineer) told me back in 2006 that we have a choice, either leave the cams at their factory settings and "not" have the service engine soon light come on, or we can pick up 30-40rwhp at several points in the powerband by moving the cams to optimize the M3's performance. I asked why can't we do both. He said because the DME looks at the camshaft position sensors and determines that the camshafts are not within the range set from the factory. So I chose to have more power and leave the SES light on. If we tuned the DME, we could possibly change those limits to allow our settings and not have the SES light come on, but we really haven't spent (or wasted) any time with DME tuning on that car since the factory computer doesn't run the engine. You can't even see the SES light with our kit anyway.

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Old 12-04-2009, 12:19 PM   #72
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do you have any other 60-130mph times on pump,pump+meth and race gas modes?
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:34 PM   #73
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do you have any other 60-130mph times on pump,pump+meth and race gas modes?
I don't currently. Maybe I'll do some on the next HPF stage 2 car we do.

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Old 12-04-2009, 03:07 PM   #74
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Sounds very promising! This would bring a nice addition to the S/C community.
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Of course. We control both the intake and exhaust cam and have programmed them in a table that allows us +/- 20 degrees based on both rpm and boost. It is truly remarkable how much power you can pick up by advancing/retarding the cams based on rpm and boost. That's the main reason our kits have virtually no turbo lag, it's because we've set the cams for the maximum power at lower rpms as well as tuned the cams for the maximum performance across the entire powerband.

JP (our engineer) told me back in 2006 that we have a choice, either leave the cams at their factory settings and "not" have the service engine soon light come on, or we can pick up 30-40rwhp at several points in the powerband by moving the cams to optimize the M3's performance. I asked why can't we do both. He said because the DME looks at the camshaft position sensors and determines that the camshafts are not within the range set from the factory. So I chose to have more power and leave the SES light on. If we tuned the DME, we could possibly change those limits to allow our settings and not have the SES light come on, but we really haven't spent (or wasted) any time with DME tuning on that car since the factory computer doesn't run the engine. You can't even see the SES light with our kit anyway.

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Old 12-04-2009, 03:58 PM   #75
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JP (our engineer) told me back in 2006 that we have a choice, either leave the cams at their factory settings and "not" have the service engine soon light come on, or we can pick up 30-40rwhp at several points in the powerband by moving the cams to optimize the M3's performance. I asked why can't we do both. He said because the DME looks at the camshaft position sensors and determines that the camshafts are not within the range set from the factory. So I chose to have more power and leave the SES light on. If we tuned the DME, we could possibly change those limits to allow our settings and not have the SES light come on, but we really haven't spent (or wasted) any time with DME tuning on that car since the factory computer doesn't run the engine. You can't even see the SES light with our kit anyway.

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Wow thats great! I didn't know that's how the story went glad you went for that extra HP 30-40 extra rwhp is no joke. I wonder if ESS could help out with the SES light "problem." Since I think they do a lot of DME tuning. Not that it's a big deal it would just make the install that much more flawless and perfect.

Or you could just take out the LED in the back of the SES light haha either way.
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:28 PM   #76
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With this car being tuned with the VF supercharger what do you do about the DME being flashed with the GIAC tune? I'm assuming its just flashed back over with a stock tune and then plugged into with the AEM standalone?
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:32 PM   #77
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With this car being tuned with the VF supercharger what do you do about the DME being flashed with the GIAC tune? I'm assuming its just flashed back over with a stock tune and then plugged into with the AEM standalone?
the stand alone over rides the DME . you wouldnt need to reflash the DME unless you went back to completely stock

for example Scott still has the VF reflash on his DME which is why he has the top speed limiter removed.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:19 AM   #78
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