Laser jammer location

If you want F+R protection, get the more expensive one. It's been a while since I've looked at it, but I think it's the M-50 or something like that. (The one with 2 F, 2 R)

I'm gonna be running 2 up front with one in the rear. Cops here will laser on top of overpasses at the rear of your car as you pass underneath and they will have a unit waiting at the entrance ramp and they will radio to the unit which car and how fast you are going and etc and come chase you down. So i want a laser headunit above the rear license plate. They are smart here, and they will use the same radar band as the stationary radar display units they stick next to the road so people who don't know the difference will get caught.

looks good... I've been running a jammer for 2+ years now... saved my a$$ a number of times

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=470057

This is how my setup looked like with M20's. If I decide to do the bumper mount again they will be further apart from each other.

Just curious but could you mount a detector in that same spot as well?

Originally Posted by menncars

Just curious but could you mount a detector in that same spot as well?

IDK why you want to.

Originally Posted by menncars

Just curious but could you mount a detector in that same spot as well?

No, don't. They are not meant to take the elements. Just put it to the left/ride side of your rearview mirror, mounted high.

Here's one of my vids showing where my V1 is mounted:

Originally Posted by BMW_Matt

IDK why you want to.

I saw the Sti-R here

http://www.kmph.ca/products/radar-de...ics-sti-r.html

I wonder where that would be mounted in a car like the e46.

I think Beltronics are cheap, but I'm not fond of radar detectors mounted exterior. The V1 and 9500 are the best detectors, period.

both will work, grill will probably work better than the bumper actually. good idea.

Originally Posted by dreamdrivedrift

both will work, grill will probably work better than the bumper actually. good idea.

Yea, but what do you think about cutting into the grill? honestly

Originally Posted by Solidjake

Yea, but what do you think about cutting into the grill? honestly

do it with your chrome set first to see if it'll hold up structurally. that's my first concern. my next concern is whether you'll be able to find a location to mount it so that it'll be level. if you can take care of both of those then go for it.

aesthetically i think it should be fine as you already have black grills..

Originally Posted by Solidjake

I think Beltronics are cheap, but I'm not fond of radar detectors mounted exterior. The V1 and 9500 are the best detectors, period.

that is very false, my friend. Custom installed radar detectors have come a long way recently and are far superior to the best windshield mounted detectors like the 9500ix\v1\redline.

go youtube videos from SpeedTrapHunter and you;ll see how the 9500ci and STI-r are in a class way above the 9500i and V1.

The thing is, who the heck wants to spend $1500 on the 9500ci?

Originally Posted by SuckaGDog

I'm gonna be running 2 up front with one in the rear. Cops here will laser on top of overpasses at the rear of your car as you pass underneath and they will have a unit waiting at the entrance ramp and they will radio to the unit which car and how fast you are going and etc and come chase you down. So i want a laser headunit above the rear license plate. They are smart here, and they will use the same radar band as the stationary radar display units they stick next to the road so people who don't know the difference will get caught.

wouldn't that be hearsay, and inadmissable in court? The officer writing the ticket and pulling you over cannot honestly attest to the speed You were traveling, and had to have someone else tell him.

I'm not a lawyer though. That's just my guess.

Originally Posted by NOVAbimmer

wouldn't that be hearsay, and inadmissable in court? The officer writing the ticket and pulling you over cannot honestly attest to the speed You were traveling, and had to have someone else tell him.

I'm not a lawyer though. That's just my guess.

All the contested tickets that the radar/laser teams write are put on the court docket in groups. This way ALL the officers involved can be there in court. Nice try though!

This entire thread is hilarious. Oh, where to start... Here's a few facts for all you experts:

LEOs don't need to have a readout on their guns to issue a citation. As trained officers, all they have to prove in court is that you were exceeding the speed limit according to their professional estimation. It could be as simple as observing you operate your vehicle faster than normal traffic, sudden change of lanes, or just because he felt you were going faster. Not proved... Felt. It will absolutely stand up in court (and guess who's in charge in court? Not you. He is always in charge. Oh, your attorney will tell you he can beat the ticket or have the charge reduced, and he may very well do so (for a [large] fee). But bottom line: In court, nine out of ten times, you will lose. And... it will cost you mucho moolah.

Cops loooooove to pull over a driver with a radar detection device in the car. It will automatically put him in an "issue citation" mode no matter what your excuse or what your circumstance. I have ridden with a number of LEOs as a civilian observer over the years, and there's been quite a few times my host has pulled over a car that normally he would have let squeak by after all was said and done... until he spotted the detector in the car. Then it becomes, for him at least, a definite reason to issue a citation. If you must have a radar detector... hide it.

The thing is, who the heck wants to spend $1500 on the 9500ci?

Who pays retail anymore? Get the STi-R and slap it in yourself:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beltronics-STi-R...item20ae4fcc43

Which brings up why have a "jammer" at all? It's just another reason to have your friendly neighborhood LEO go all citation-happy on your sorry butt. Don't think for one minute he won't know you have one, for reasons mentioned above. And it may be "legal" everywhere as others claim, but to the officer, it's prima facie evidence of intent to evade enforcement, and at that point, he has the ability, capacity, and even desire to not only issue the citation, but also to find [read: come up with] a reason to impound the vehicle (more money for you to fork out). Sure he can... he can do anything he wants, he's the one in charge, remember?

And jammers...

Spare me the online articles with glowing reviews of how well they work. And all the fist-person reports of how their jammer saved their butts many a time. They may sometimes defeat the LEOs detectors, under certain ideal conditions, but as mentioned above... the Officer does not need the Lidar reading to issue the citation. Unless the jammer is making you car invisible... you're fair game. Period. Paragraph.

So go ahead and get one and drill your kidney out to accommodate the thing (and that alone is worth many s right there) but rest assured...

There ain't no way in God's green Earth that you will not eventually get stopped with one of these if you're speeding and thinking your jammer will make you invulnerable. And especially in New York. Save your money and your time and effort for something that really has some bearing on reality...

If you must speed (and I do, I'm not telling you not to), do so intelligently and safely, that's the best way to avoid entanglements with John Q. Law. Good luck to you all, and have a peaceful and ticketless 2010...

Originally Posted by BoogetyBoogety

Which brings up why have a "jammer" at all? It's just another reason to have your friendly neighborhood LEO go all citation-happy on your sorry butt. ...has the ability, capacity, and even desire to not only issue the citation, but also to find [read: come up with] a reason to impound the vehicle (more money for you to fork out). Sure he can... he can do anything he wants, he's the one in charge, remember?

And jammers...

...They may sometimes defeat the LEOs detectors, under certain ideal conditions, but as mentioned above... the Officer does not need the Lidar reading to issue the citation. ...

...There ain't no way in God's green Earth that you will not eventually get stopped with one of these if you're speeding and thinking your jammer will make you invulnerable. ...Save your money and your time and effort for something that really has some bearing on reality...

If you must speed ...do so intelligently and safely, that's the best way to avoid entanglements with John Q. Law.

I appreciate you logic, intelligent speeding, etc.... I do it, as 1 of my tactics....

But, facts are facts, and the math adds up on jammers.

Correct, there is no full-proof speeding solution...that's not the point. It's increasing your odds to a point of monetary win.

I speed every day, detector/jammer or not, for 21 years...2-3 tickets every year...FACT...totalling 50 tickets in my life...$15,00 spent in fines and attorney fees.

But, for the last 30 months, with a top line radar det. and laser jammer, I have 0...yet I grossly sped into 15 laser traps...that's only counting traps where i was the leader of a group or alone. That is having a bearing on my reality, to the tune of thousands of $'s.

All of my 15 wins are at 15+MPH over the limit. My best win is 110 in a 65 last year, coming around a corner in Overland Park, KS.

Yet no tickets...not even 1 pull over. Ideal conditions 15 times??? Sure! Please spread your doubt to the cop forums. People who have experience w/ jammers, and know how to use them, love people who spread the ignorance, and aid in keeping jammers legal.

15 - 100% laser successes, avg. fix-a-ticket = $300, totals $4500 saved. Cost of the equipment at $500 means even if I get nailed to the wall on the next one, it has to be >$4000 before it's a total loss...I don't know of a speeding or equipment fine that large. Math adds up for jammers!

When it comes down to it, it's quit simple why it works - most of the time. The laser cop visually survey's cars from about 1500 ft.. At this point he can only select the car most quickly by-passing others, but has no idea how fast any of them are going. I make his decision easy, by passing everyone.

Once I'm choosen, he points that laser, very focused on getting the little red dot right on my plate, grill, or headlight....all the while ignoring all the other cars...cause he's got a live one!

A good hit can take 2-3 seconds under normal conditions. While he focuses on that, I'm already getting warned, jamming, slowing down, and turning off my jammer...in that same 3 seconds. Now his laser reading comes on right at the limit...I was going fastest...but is that speeding...how fast was anyone going??? If I'm alone out there, he has absolutely no frame of reference. If not, now others have see him or my brakes, their brake lights are lighting like Xmas trees, and the group slows and it's all a cluster of people at the limit...oh, well, onto the next speeder, and fodder for my 19th success story.

So, pull me over on a suspision and maybe or maybe not give a ticket, or spend his time on the sure win with the next speeder and a good hit. My experience says he waits for the sure win.

Keep doubting...I've saved thousands in 30 months!!!

Originally Posted by itsskoop

so if a cop is radaring you and it doesn't work because it gets jammed, how do you know he's just not gonna come after you because of the simple fact?

i don't think their radr guns fail often so it seems as if they'd know what's up.
correct me if i'm wrong.

jammers work work by reflecting the signal back to the gun. it just simply wont show a reading the guns wont pick up a speed from every car so they wont exaclty be able to pin point you

Originally Posted by Solidjake

Alright guys, I need to get the final spot to place my jammers when I get them. I thought about putting them vertically but I read that on BMW's the grills aren't perfectly vertical. So I am thinking I can get a dremmel and put the heads horizontally in them... Here are some spots, either red or yellow.

If you get the LI or Blinder M27, you can get by with the upper wall of the lower bumper opening. My wife has the Nissan Murano SUV with the same verticle chrome grill problems. She has the LI mounted in that lower bumper opening, and has had numerous wins that SUV....let alone a lower profile car. It might not jam to gun down there, but if your that close to the cop and aren't slowed downm with the jammer off, you deserve a ticket anyway.

Originally Posted by Solidjake

No, don't. They are not meant to take the elements. Just put it to the left/ride side of your rearview mirror, mounted high.

Here's one of my vids showing where my V1 is mounted:

How do you have you camera mounted?