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Old 05-20-2008, 09:13 PM   #1
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What is the heaviest oil I can run in my BMW? m54

I need to know what is the heaviest oil I can run in my bmw. My car is using a ton of oil. I am replacing the ccv valve and hopefully that fixes the problem. If it does not I need to know a back up plan before I even think about replacing the valve stem seals. I have my eye on this oil



This oil is 5w-40. I currently use it in my motorcycle. Im sure you guys have hear of it before. They also make a 15w-40 version which I think will be way too thick,

I am willing to try this oil on my car. Please let me know of any side affects that may occur as a result.

95k miles 01 330ci

I am losing as much as a quart every 500 miles. maybe less. No visible smoke out of the exhaust.

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Old 05-20-2008, 09:23 PM   #2
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I need to know what is the heaviest oil I can run in my bmw. My car is using a ton of oil. I am replacing the ccv valve and hopefully that fixes the problem. If it does not I need to know a back up plan before I even think about replacing the valve stem seals. I have my eye on this oil



This oil is 5w-40. I currently use it in my motorcycle. Im sure you guys have hear of it before. They also make a 15w-40 version which I think will be way too thick,

I am willing to try this oil on my car. Please let me know of any side affects that may occur as a result.

95k miles 01 330ci

I am losing as much as a quart every 500 miles. maybe less. No visible smoke out of the exhaust.
Do a search on it, but if you put in anything outside of the recommended, you are going to either ruin your engine components or ruin your performance. Use ONLY BMW LL-01 (longlife) oils.
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:37 PM   #3
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Well royal purple has come out with 5w-40 for our cars. I dont beleive it is long life approved. Which does not concern me because I would never wait for 15k miles to change my oil anyway.
here is the royal purple. it is the same viscosity as the rotella

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=197033 Royal purple

http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...ellasynth.html Rotella

I searched but could not find anything. I found a stray post of someone using it in their 325 with no problems. I am just trying to figure out why it would be bad to run this oil
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:41 PM   #4
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Wait, does the owner's manual say 5w-30 or 5w-40 weight? I thought I read that just the other day.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:53 PM   #5
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if you put in anything outside of the recommended, you are going to either ruin your engine components or ruin your performance. Use ONLY BMW LL-01 (longlife) oils.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:57 PM   #6
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wasn't really that funny.
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:27 AM   #7
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I use the same oil in my 2001 325ci and I haven't had any problems at all. When I read the manual for my car it mentions 5w30 and 5w40 synthetic oil (BMW LL01.) I wanted to go with a heavier weight. Anyway, the only 5w40 oil that I can regularly find is Shell Rotella T Synthetic. I pick it up at Walmart. It isn't BMW LL01. If you want BMW LL01 oils that are heavier than 5w30, then perform a search for a listing. Off the top of my head there's Mobil 1 0w40, Valvoline 5w40 synthetic, and Castrol 10w60 (the expensive stuff used by E46 M3s.) Good luck.
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:35 AM   #8
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maybe you should look into the cause of the oil burning problem. My car was burning lots of oil around 90000 miles, turned out to be the Valve Cover Gasket leaking oil into the engine bay. I could see white smoke when i stopped moving (like at a stop light) and could smell a problem with the car. Replaced the VCG and spark plugs, havent used a drop of oil to this day...
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:43 AM   #9
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I'm using Castrol 10w60 (the only way to go) on my Supercharged 330XI.
That oil is actually cheaper than the 5w40 "long life oil" from Castrol.
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:50 AM   #10
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I need to know what is the heaviest oil I can run in my bmw. My car is using a ton of oil. I am replacing the ccv valve and hopefully that fixes the problem. If it does not I need to know a back up plan before I even think about replacing the valve stem seals.

This oil is 5w-40. I currently use it in my motorcycle. Im sure you guys have hear of it before. They also make a 15w-40 version which I think will be way too thick,

I am willing to try this oil on my car. Please let me know of any side affects that may occur as a result.

95k miles 01 330ci

I am losing as much as a quart every 500 miles. maybe less. No visible smoke out of the exhaust.
As pointed, look for the cause of oil burn. If you burn as much as you say then a thicker oil will probably not do anything and it will put more stress on the engine specially on the VANOS which works with oil. I was burning as much oil as you and I went up to 15W50 Mobil 1 nascar edition. The only thing that happened was to make the car more sluggish (like I had 2 extra passengers inside all the time).
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:27 AM   #11
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^+1 find the problem. With that kind of oil consumption, thicker oil likely won't help much. At a quart/500mi. are you sure it's not leaking out somewhere?
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I know this is a REALLY old thread, but I'd like to add that I'm having this problem too....
my engine (from a 330ci) burns a quart every 500-600 miles. I've been using only BMW oil 5w30 but now I started topping off with Castrol 5w40

did you ever fix the problem?
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Old 03-28-2010, 09:27 AM   #13
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I love oil threads.

"If you don't use an oil that's LL01 approved, your engine will catastrophically self-destruct!!!"
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I just use OEM. It's cheap and guaranteed to work properly in my car.
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My car burns oil with the BMW 5w-30 but not with the Castrol 5w-40. Long life oil doesn't matter if you change it frequently. I don't get why some people freak out about that.
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My car burns oil with the BMW 5w-30 but not with the Castrol 5w-40. Long life oil doesn't matter if you change it frequently. I don't get why some people freak out about that.
exactly. as long as you change it quickly you have nothing to worry about
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exactly. as long as you change it quickly you have nothing to worry about
Not true. It's not just the 'long-life' that is important. The LL-01 oils meet the proper shear/viscocity specs whereas other non LL oils do not.
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I'm using Castrol 10w60 (the only way to go) on my Supercharged 330XI.
That oil is actually cheaper than the 5w40 "long life oil" from Castrol.
This is definitely the wrong weight oil. I do not suggest you follow this.
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Not true. It's not just the 'long-life' that is important. The LL-01 oils meet the proper shear/viscocity specs whereas other non LL oils do not.
Touché
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