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Old 06-23-2010, 12:00 PM   #21
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If you are running 18" then I'd look into some used Continental Tires from a GS team. I sell all of my 17" tires to guys that do track events. They wear really well, are a medium compound and are cheap. I sell mine for $100/set and that's dirt cheap for a dedicated race tire that will get you at least 3 to 4 weekends out of them
As a customer of shelly's I can definitly agree! I would do your first 3-5 events on your stock tires and just upgrade your brakes, then if you really want to get into it then get your self some dedicated track wheels and tires. I've been running shelly's continental take off's all season, and they are amazing. I am a bmw club instructor and I usually get about 4-5 track days worth of driving out of a set. That's 3-4 23min sessions per day. The tires work great and wear excellent. I just got 2 more sets from him that will last me the rest of the season.

Jp, on a different note, how are the new conti slicks verse the conti badged hoosiers that I am currently on?
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Old 06-23-2010, 12:18 PM   #22
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Honestly, you'll become a better driver with a 6MT. You'll learn the balance of the car under braking and cornering much better. Plus there's nothing quite like a perfectly matched heel-toe downshift
I suppose you are right about becoming a better driver with the manual. The lady might be kinda disappointed, but she will live with it lol. Who knows, maybe one day Ill teach her (but not on the M3)

Quick off topic question. When I was home a couple weeks ago I drove a 09 M3 and I noticed it had a hill sensor so the car didnt roll back when shifting to first. Do E46 M3s have this too? That would probably be a good plus for her if she decided to learn.
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I used to think that I would enjoy an SMG more for learning how to drive out at the track but after learning with my manual I am so glad that I didn't go straight to paddles. Learning how to heal and toe is an invaluable lesson for any car enthusiast and I don't think you'll ever get it just right until you go out to the track and do it at full speed.
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:31 PM   #24
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I've been running shelly's continental take off's all season, and they are amazing.
Dang, I guess I'll have to get some the next time I'm back in the Philly area.

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Learning how to heal and toe is an invaluable lesson for any car enthusiast and I don't think you'll ever get it just right until you go out to the track and do it at full speed.
Right. I found it a little difficult to master on the street since you generally don't have the brake pedal all the way down. So it was harder to control the blip since your foot wasn't flat.
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Dang, I guess I'll have to get some the next time I'm back in the Philly area.



Right. I found it a little difficult to master on the street since you generally don't have the brake pedal all the way down. So it was harder to control the blip since your foot wasn't flat.
Heel Toe will seem like a piece of cake on the track compared to the street. Especially in a car with ABS. Trying to heel toe on the street without the car behind you rear-ending you is very tricky. On the track? Much easier than it sounds.
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:44 PM   #26
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!. Brake Fluid flush and replace Motul
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4. Seat time
5. Seat time
And more seat time. Save the R-Compounds until you are at the limit on street tires. The GS take offs are a great deal and are made by Hoosier.
No to the harness with out a roll bar
Stay between the ditches keep the dirty side down and have a blast.
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Heel Toe will seem like a piece of cake on the track compared to the street. Especially in a car with ABS. Trying to heel toe on the street without the car behind you rear-ending you is very tricky. On the track? Much easier than it sounds.
I remember getting rear ended was a concern when I was practicing on the street.

Eventually, I could heel toe by just braking normally which felt really retarded. Made it a lot easier on the track.

Actually, there is a video on www.BMWNA.com about the BMW Performance Center M School where the instructor is explaining a rev-matching technique which might help as well.
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!. Brake Fluid flush and replace Motul
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The E46 floating euro rotors are drilled. Mine wore out and cracked pretty quickly. I'd just stick with regular blanks or slotted.

I used to use Motul but had to flush it 2-3 times a year. SRF is much better just because its still good after 9 months. Saves you the trouble of probably 4-5 bleeds over Motul. And its probably cheaper over the long run.
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